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Tottenham Hotspur v Liverpool Match History 1894-2014

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by THFC6061, Aug 26, 2014.

  1. redwhiteandermblue

    redwhiteandermblue Well-Known Member

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    I'm not that negative. Not yet, anyway. Two teams playing an open, attacking style played. The team which had been playing it longer, and had better attacking players who tended to be somewhat older won fairly easily. But we weren't that far off the pace, I thought, for a team with a coach who's been at it with this team for a few weeks, and key players who average about 22 (except for Ade). The 62-39 possession and 7-3 corner edge didn't tell most of the story, but it does show the big problem was that we didn't capitalize on the handful of clear cut chances and Liverpool did. I'd stay stick with it, accept we aren't a top four or perhaps even top 6 team this year, and see if we can improve over time. We weren't as good as we looked through most of Pochettino's previous eight wins and a draw, and aren't as bad as we looked today.
     
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  2. The Mighty Thor

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    But it shows we are inconsistent and Levy isn't a patient man. All of a sudden Poch looks vulnerable.
     
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  3. NSIS

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    Again, consistency in officiating comes into question. Lovren almost pulled Ade's shirt of his back in the area - nothing given. Dier merely touches Allen's arm - penalty. The big difference being, of course, is that Ade stayed on his feet, whilst Allen hit the deck like he'd been shot.
     
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  4. The Mighty Thor

    The Mighty Thor Well-Known Member

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    Again straw clutching. It happened and we cannot unhappen it so let's forget it and enjoy the next week's prospects ie Sunderland.
     
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  5. PowerSpurs

    PowerSpurs Well-Known Member

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    Redknapp did very well to get that squad into the CL but he paid a net £40m in his first window to sign some of the players you mention. We then had a net spend of £20m in that season - as well as King, Modric and Bale returning from injury and finished a place worse. In recent seasons we have had a net spend of zero. Pre Harry, under the DoF regime we signed about one player a year who turned out massively well - Carrick, Berbatov, Bale, Modric. None of the signings under Harry have done this.

    It is simply not possible for one guy to do the three jobs of coaching the first team, identifying weaknesses and finding better players. The ideal solution would be Harry as coach and a DoF but he is too arrogant to accept that so had to go.
     
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  6. The RDBD

    The RDBD Well-Known Member

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    "I'm not that negative. Not yet, anyway. ..."

    Cannot be said better than that.
    If we are still playing like last season against the better teams come October time, then I will be
    concerned with Pochettino.
     
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  7. totsfan

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    something should be done,top 4 club getting the decision again,refs should have to tell the fans why he gave or did not give decisions after games,until it happens they will not get respect,they want
     
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  8. Spurf

    Spurf Thread Mover Forum Moderator

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    Watching that game made me question how this squad can do without Sandro. Liverpool out muscled us as they used to before we had Palacious and later Parker. Capoue is the holding midfielder but in my view not as effective as Sandro so far.
     
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  9. RobSpur

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    Interesting.

    I dont think he went due to levy wanting a dof personally, but your other comments are illuminating, particularly about those 4 quality signings we made.
     
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  10. Spurm

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    Pundits, one of whom was Jamie Redknapp, targeted Capoue and Kaboul as players that could cost us in that game. They were spot on. Capoue wasn't busy enough and as Redknapp said with Kaboul you always have that feeling he has a mistake in him in the big games.
    I think Verts and Fazio are Poch's preferred pairing at the back and its clear from our targets he doesn't much fancy our DMs
     
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  11. RobSpur

    RobSpur Well-Known Member

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    Dont forget btw (and this isnt a piss take btw), we had 2 points from. 8 games when he came. He might have repeated it himself a lot, but tbf it is worth remembering.
     
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  12. Boss

    Boss Son of Pulis

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    Capoue not as good as Sandro? who would have thought that.
     
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  13. No Kane No Gain

    No Kane No Gain Well-Known Member

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    I've nothing but respect for what Harry did but as a manager, it's an easy opportunity to take over. We were underachieving on a startling scale at that point and the only way was up, with a first season to settle where the expectations on him couldn't have been lower. The speed of the turn around was very impressive but I think most managers would rather take over a promising Spurs side that's bottom of the league than a Spurs side who's just missed out on the CL. I think Pochettino might benefit from that too, like Redknapp he has the big money signings that were made before him but without the pressure and expectation that comes from a big spend up.
     
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  14. sa1nts

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    Oh, yes it is, I've just read it. And so obviously have you, so unless you can add a bit of substance to your lazy comment, don't comment. Cheers.
     
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  15. Boss

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    But as mentioned Redknapp added to them signings, the players Redknapp signed where the ones who got us into the champions league. Pochettino can't rely on trying to get Lamela and Soldado (and co) performing as that is a lost cause in terms of being good enough to get champions league. Pochettino would have to make asute signings that are perfect for his system to complement the squad already in place and if by some miracle he gets us top four then he would deserve praise for doing it his way, yet we all know its not going to happen.
     
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  16. No Kane No Gain

    No Kane No Gain Well-Known Member

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    Redknapp's signings were always short term, they all fell out of favour within 18 months of signing with the exception of VDV, which Redknapp doesn't take credit for. The likes of Dawson, Lennon, Huddlestone, Bale, Modric, King, Huddlestone, Corluka, Gomes and others were all every bit as crucial to Redknapp's success at the club. It's a manager's dream to take over a club badly underachieving with that kind of quality.

    My only responce to the Pochettino stuff is wait until the end of the season, like I will.
     
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  17. The RDBD

    The RDBD Well-Known Member

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    "The speed of the turn around was very impressive but I think most managers would rather take over a promising Spurs side
    that's bottom of the league than a Spurs side who's just missed out on the CL."

    Arry showed he ultimately couldn't handle the pressure of expectation at the business end of the PL.
    In 2010, when nobody expected Spurs to get a CL slot, he got a haul of 27 pts from 39 in the final third.
    Only BMJ has matched that (and I contend that will be the minimum taken by the next Spurs side to
    get a CL slot via the PL) .

    The next two seasons, the return was respectively 15 and 16 pts from 39. That is relegation form.
     
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  18. totsfan

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    We had 2 huddlestones? :grin:
     
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  19. Boss

    Boss Son of Pulis

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    I've no need as I know he isn't going to get us top four.

    But as for Redknapp and his signings. Bassong was crucial that year with Ledley injured. Crouch and Defoe scored the goals. Palacios (who gets under rated) was the player who added that extra in midfield and you mention players like Huddlestone and Corluka yet they played the best football of their career under Redknapp. Although I'll grant you, having world class Gomes isn't something Redknapp can take credit for :smiley:
     
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  20. Spurm

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    Yeah, there were 2 people in that Huddlestone shaped costume
     
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