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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by TheSecondStain, Jul 15, 2014.

  1. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    I would respect anyone's views if it doesn't harm me or anyone else. I dislike the pain that religions have caused round the world...if I could wish some of them away and prevent death and wars I would do so, but doesn't mean I will insult a Muslim at his daily prayers, call a Christian an idiot, or throw a pig's head at a Jew. It's acase of respecting their rights to a view rather than the view itself. However, my opening sentence is the important thing...we should never pussyfoot around crimes or unacceptable behaviour on the grounds of religion.
     
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  2. PompeyLapras

    PompeyLapras Well-Known Member

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    I already answered that question:

    I would say believing all non-white, blond haired blue eyed people should be destroyed is impinging others.

    I think that's fairly obvious.

    Brilliantly said Fran.

    I should point out, I have no tolerance for racist, homophobic, sexist or fascist views. Nor should anyone really.
     
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  3. fatletiss

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    Well that's ducking answering the question... how do you respect someone's view? It is a serious question.

    Although I used an extreme example, it just shows that you can not always respect someone's view.
     
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  4. Le Tissier's Laces

    Le Tissier's Laces Well-Known Member

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  5. fatletiss

    fatletiss Well-Known Member

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  6. Le Tissier's Laces

    Le Tissier's Laces Well-Known Member

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    Not that I can get hold of her to tell her...
     
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  7. fatletiss

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    She's a music star in training.... she's in bed sleeping off what ever she did last night/early this morning.
     
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  8. Le Tissier's Laces

    Le Tissier's Laces Well-Known Member

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    No, she's actually up (for once) - spoke to her earlier. Who knows where she's flitted off to now though!
     
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  9. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    Well said, Fran. Thee essence of tolerance and understanding.
     
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  10. PompeyLapras

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    I never said you could always respect someone's view.

    Respecting someone's opinion is about accepting their right to have a particular view, even if it's a view you disagree with, so long as their view is not in anyway impinging on other's rights, either as a person or in terms of their rights to have an opinion. It therefore consists of not mocking, insulting or being prejudice towards someone or their views. For example, I strongly dislike the Labour party and Milliband, however if you support Labour (I dunno if you do, just an example), I would respect and accept that, as long as you didn't start calling me Tory scum or something. In return, I would expect you to accept that I support the Conservatives. Likewise, to go back to the video I posted which started this whole conversation, I would not respect the views of that guy's family because their views are prejudice towards others (i.e. that guy, and homosexuality as a whole).
     
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  11. fatletiss

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  12. Piebacca

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    She's not at my house, if that helps.
     
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  13. PompeyLapras

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    If the view in question does not impinge on other person's rights, then yes, you probably should. And not doing so makes one seem like a bit of a dick. I did mention this caveat in my previous post addressedf to him, see below:

     
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  14. Le Tissier's Laces

    Le Tissier's Laces Well-Known Member

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    Have you checked the shadows, it tends to be where she lurks...
     
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  15. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace Forum Moderator

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    I don't think you can treat religious beliefs in the same way as political outlooks. Faith is what the name implies, something you believe in for whatever reason, but which you haven't necessarily sat down and decided upon rationally. In that case, I agree that you should respect other people's beliefs. Political views on the other hand are there for arguing with, that's what they are for. If someone says they are a supporter of a political party or movement I disagree with, then I have an absolute right to question that support, as long as I don't resort to personal abuse.
     
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  16. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    I'm told by my niece that the kewl thing to do in Brighton is to wander through all the various charity shops. I must admit, I did check a few out myself, looking through all the discarded LPs. Then onto the record shops themselves. Then the pub.
     
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  17. PompeyLapras

    PompeyLapras Well-Known Member

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    Nothing wrong with debating politics, or even religion, as long as you do so in a respectful manner and recognise that just because their views are different to yours, doesn't make them 'wrong'.
     
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  18. Le Tissier's Laces

    Le Tissier's Laces Well-Known Member

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    I wouldn't know much about cool things TSS!
     
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  19. fran-MLs little camera

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  20. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace Forum Moderator

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    My point was that if I hypothetically disagree with your religion I would still respect your right to believe in it and I wouldn't try and change your views. If your politics were fundamentally opposed to what I thought, I wouldn't hesitate to try and change your mind.
     
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