http://news.sky.com/story/1326331/rotherham-pc-accused-of-child-sex-offence Does that mean every white man should come out and publicly condemn him? And those that don't are condoning the crime? Of course it doesn't. Some of the ignorant crap I see on here sometimes truly astounds me.
Not sure I get the context. However, if he's guilty, I'd condemn him whatever his colour. If he's a police officer, he's supposed to be upholding the law, not breaking it! And especially, not breaking it with underage girls!
My point is that when a crime is commited by a person of colour then the media do their best to mention their skin colour when imo it isn't relevant at all. *****philes are *****philes regardless of their colour or religion but to say it's just one colour/religions problems is beyond stupid.
Agreed. However, it does seem to have become so P.C. Over there that sometimes people are afraid to say what may be the simple truth. If for instance, say 75% of muggings in a certain area are commited by young black males! does that make it racist to say it? Or are those just the plain facts?
Race is very relevant in my opinion. This is not the first example in the UK of an Asian gang grooming young girls, by any stretch. It's not nice to admit, but there is a definite issue in attitudes to women and sex among sections of Indo-Asian males. India's problem with gang rape culture, and continued practice of arranged marriages is a clear indicator of this. It's difficult to say the above without sounding racist of course.
Indo-Asian immigrants to the UK are brought up with many of the same cultural values as those practiced in India, naturally. My cousins were born in Canada to British parents. They still drink Earl Grey tea and love Marmite, oddly, for Canadians who've rarely been to the UK.
I see the problem as men rather than any sort of religion or race. Look at the bbc *****phile ring. What was the common denominator? MEN. Like I said blaming a race/religion for the problem is at best lazy and at worse ignorant.
Whilst I completely agree with the basis of your argument, there's nothing in that report or any other that I've seen that indicates that he's white. He might be black, though he's probably not Asian, going by his name. There seems to be a systemic problem with child services in some parts of this country which has been abused by *****philes, often in groups. Savile and his ilk took advantage of it and there's been plenty of other reports about groups of local men doing the same. It seems to be something that the North of England has failed to deal with effectively, but I don't see anyone calling all Northerners child abusers. Picking out a few non-white groups and focusing on them is rather counter-productive, in my opinion.
You could just as well say HUMANS are the problem, as they're behind every crime... The fact is it's possible to narrow down the problem to MEN, and indeed be more specific than just MEN. In the BBC case, it's MEN in positions of power with young, admiring fans. Many celebrities from that generation were subsequently wrongly accused of child abuse, because they fitted into that particular demographic, and were essentially stereotyped. In the Rotherham case, it's MEN who come from an Asian background. It's unfortunate for the wider Asian community that they be stigmatised for a few bad apples, but it doesn't mean we should ignore their background altogether, I believe it's relevant.
I dont think we should lump all Asians together so casually. The Indian issue with rape (horrific) is a caste issue and as far as I know hasn't been exported. This has nothing to do with *****philes. There seems to be an issue within the Pakistani Muslim community with grooming young white girls (under age and young adults). These are seperate and neither should be associated the whole ethnic group. There are plenty of white males that do things that horrify me and I would not want to be tarred with the same brush.
Got a point Thor. The country is paralysed by political correctness and the fact that if you have any sort of career and are found to go against the enforced multicultural agenda means you are finished. It is easier to swim with the tide. That is what happened in Rotherham and is happening anywhere there is a community that values women little and women not of their own cultural persuasion even less; It is taken out of the realms of crime and punishment and into that of "cohesion". We always were a people that apologised when somebody bumped into us,but now we are actually sacrificing our children for the sake of careers and an idea of multiculturalism that is almost as extreme as the Islamists in the headlines right now. I'm not a "streets of blood" man, but surely this cannot end well? As for Scotland, I'd like to see to us stay together. Without us they have little influence and a tiny population. On the plus side, the West Lothian question would be well and truly answered and we wouldn't be in a position where we subsidise free prescriptions and university education North of the border while not benefiting from it ourselves.
Well said. Scum is scum regardless of colour/race/religion. I don't get how the *****s in Rotherham are linked to ISIL though?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ring-groomed-young-girls-abusing-cottage.html Does this mean there is a problem in the white Cornish community then? No of course it doesn't. So why is the whole Asian community being blamed in Rotherham?
Absolutely right. Regardless of race, culture or religion crime should be treated as crime. Instead we have the police and governmental and non-governmental agencies bending over backwards not to offend the more vocal community groups. Sorry to say it, a white ****phile ring would not have been able to operate for 14 years virtually unscathed with the full knowledge of the police and social services. It would be dismantled inside a year, unless the people involved were extraordinarily powerful. And still most of the culprits in Rotherham have not been brought to justice, though we can go back to the 70's to pick the low hanging fruit of "celebrity" ****philes. Is that not a little puzzling?
Savile? Cyril Smith? By their very definition, we have no way of knowing what else the police and social services are covering up now, too. There have been many accusations, including a number that I'd previously written off as wild conspiracy nonsense. I'm no longer sure that's the case.
Saville and Smith were both men who abused their power in horrific ways. You are right about the police and social services. I imagine there have been "urgent meetings" across the country wondering how they can contain this. The press are going to have a field day with it. It makes you question what kind of society we are actually living in. Hopefully the outcome will be lots of ****philes spending lots of time in prison.
I think we have to remember that in the case of Saville, in particular, and to some extent Cyril Smith, this mostly took place 30-40 years ago. Attitudes were remarkably different then. I really would hope that they would not get away with what they did for so long nowadays. With modern communications and social media, the police simply wouldn't be able to ignore, or cover up to the extent they apparently did back then.
One thing I've noticed on a lot of ethnic abuse/atrocity cases over history is that regardless of the ethnic group doing the abusing, there often seems to be a warped mindset of cultural/religious superiority that somehow absolves the abuser from the true nature of the act (they are X/infidels etc so God will not care / punish us etc) .
