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OT. South ****ing Yorkshire Police - AGAIN

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  1. The artist JerryChristmas

    The artist JerryChristmas "Massive old member"

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    There's good reason peado's become teachers, policemen and care home workers <ok> That doesn't mean all coppers, teachers and care home workers are peado's (far from it) it means they target those professions. Hardly new news that.
     
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  3. terrifictraore

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    f** me where do i start with this pile of shyte, yes housewives etc can be guilty of abuse but the case you mention is far from peadophilia, you would have been much better citing this http://www.theguardian.com/society/2009/oct/01/vanessa-george-sex-abuse or this http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-25412675 they both involved housewives in peodophile cases.

    as for stephen lawrence if you really think race was the major issue for the police failure then you have a whole lot of reading and learning to do.

    "looked after children" such as the majority of the victims in this case are a whole load of hard whole of trouble, wasted time and hard work to the police a hence their unwillingness to get involved in individual cases, the racial element was just an added factor for why the bean counters were scared of any bigger investigations.

    re your friend, yes of course s**t goes on at times but nowhere the level it used to be.

    re your wife, well according to you she is either a peaddohile or is working amongst them and has identified loads of them to the authorities, please let me know which one is true
     
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  4. Foredeckdave

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    Sorry mate but in this instance 1,400 kids (mostly girls) have been groomed and abused by (mostly) Pakistani men. The vast majority of these children were white. The crimes themselves have a HUGE racist element. Firstly we should be concentrating on helping the victims all we can and bringing the perpetrators to justice. We should not be wasting our time debating how the Pakistani community feel about the situation as Radio 5 are doing tonight!

    As for the actions of the police and politicians then that problem should be dealt with after the victims have justice. What worries me is that the do-gooders, the lawyers and the racial pressure groups will all buy-in to pursuing an over-arcing national investigation which goes on forever and brings nobody to justice.
     
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    Lets not all argue lads <ok>
     
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  6. terrifictraore

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    Race was a huge factor in why SS did not raise this a bigger issue, I have not worked in child protection for many years as just could not stand it but I stlll work along side muesli eating, sandal wearing, yoghurt knitters who operate some strange kind of double think where they cannot allow themselves to think a particular minority group can be guilty of anything as a group and evidence that says they are must be racially biased.

    There are still people who thinkl along the same lines as myself but everyone is too scared to speak out about it, I have to say if I was involved in south yorkshire I would have pushed forward individual cases but steered away from the race element in any investigation
     
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    I cannot get my head around police who, on finding girls under 16 years of age in situations where they believe that they are being sexually abused leave those same girls in that situation because they consider that the girls behaviour is consensual. **** RIGHT OFF, the LAW states that a girl under 16 cannot give consent!!!!

    As for the Social Workers I don't know but I suspect that liberalism and PR has compromised some of their ability to make proper decisions.
     
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  8. The artist JerryChristmas

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    At what point did I say everyone who works as a care worker is a peadophile? She worked for Rochdale Council for years (not in Child Services I'd like to add <ok>) so not like she hasn't seen the same kind of scenario erupt (a mere 40 odd victims in the Rochdale case...a whopping 4 years ago). Now I'm not suggesting any of those care workers were directly involved in those abuses but over 100 complaints ignored by SS and police? The care system is even more ****ed than ever if it can ignore that many warnings (most of those complaints were from NHS staff and not just from people being "hard work to the police").

    Nowhere near the level it used to be? 1400 girls is a whole lot of abuse that was happening up until last year. That's 1400 too many surely.

    Race wasn't a major issue in the Stephen Lawrence case? Again, you're kidding me right? (I didn't say it was the only issue or even THE major issue).

    Granted I could have picked a better example for proving housewives can be peadophiles as well as physically and mentally abusing patients <ok> Thanks for re-enforcing my point though.

    In the interests of peace and harmony I'm willing to retract the word riddled from my initial statement (wasn't meant to suggest everyone in those professions hence mentioning my bird works in the system).
     
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  9. terrifictraore

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    without a doubt, still goes on today and will do until people are prepared to admit that different racial groups will at times be more likely to commit certain offences (doesnt seem to be a problem with islamists being terrorists at the moment though for some reason).
     
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    Dont know what fook happened here
     
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  11. terrifictraore

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    Ok the riddled thing was the main issue that got me going, I still am a bit confused as to what your beloved has been involved in though as not all abuse is ****philia also you do seem to be forgetting that in this case a large percentage of abusers were taxi drivers not carers..
     
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  12. The artist JerryChristmas

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    She works for CAMMS (now) and was training with them in Rochdale. Her uni dissertation (OU) was about prevention of sexual exploitation of girls with autism (social stories and all that stuff....yes I had to proof read a shed load of her work).

    I realise the abusers weren't carers in this case but so many turned a blind eye. Why? Those who did report it (and they were reporting it) were ignored. Why? These weren't isolated complaints and odd awkward teenagers this was hundreds of complaints about one thousand four hundred kids. It doesn't add up to say every single person at the top of the system who knew about these girls just "missed the signs" or didn't feel they could raise the issue for fear of racism. Plenty of people knew about it but it still went on for 16 years unchecked, in fact it went on in such a brazen way it's unbelievable.

    Quote from a former care worker about the girls being taken out in taxis: "And we documented every single night, and we spoke to social workers. The social workers were passing that on. Everything we passed on, nothing seemed to go further in any way shape or form."




     
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  13. Gerrinho

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    We used to have an Asian kid who would do handbrake turns round what is commonly known as the 'doughnut' roundabout in chesterfield. Every Friday and Saturday night he descended round this ****ing roundabout, and every time we pulled him, he'd pull the race card! "You always pull me, is it cos of my colour?" I responded one night with "no it's cos your a ****in prick who shouldn't be allowed on the road!" We'd get him back to the station and the custody Sargeant would always get the "I don't understand, I don't speak English!" **** to waste time. In the end we were told not to pull him anymore...Not because we were corrupt like these ****ers but because the little **** always used the same tricks! This is just ****in wrong thus with SYP though!
     
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  14. Garlic Klopp

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    Reported in the Independent that Labour were well aware what was going on in Rotherham and reports into the problems were not issued following pressure from the home office as Tony Blair wanted to keep the Muslim vote on his side. The Blair government could well be revealed in the future to have been one of the most corrupt ever and well in the pocket of big business both here and in the USA.

    Leading us into wars we should never have become involved in may be the least of their evils.
     
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    Erm... SYP? You have to realise they have been stonewalling and ignoring and dismissing these claims for decades. Many concerning people who sat in Parliament. 40 implicated to be involved or to have known about the goings on. Tip of the iceberg of course.

    A full list of British politicians charged with sex offences against minors is a really long list. Look it up

    National broadcaster is infested and even the Royals have befriended many a **** and of course Mountbatten was a well known ****. But yeah the Royals are unlucky, especially Charles and Andrew who befriended epic well known ****s in Epstein and Savile and never seemed to cop it even though these kind of people have access to things like National intelligence reports FFS<doh>

    In an environment like that SYP were always going to not open a big **** investigation, face it. Who f**ing knows where it will lead to, it's like the big f**ing elephant in the room is the Establishment's taste for children.
     
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  16. Foredeckdave

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    **** Off Sisu. This was a reasonable discussion until you arrived with your usual over-blown crap. Just keep stum until you can find a way of justifying the Irish politicians, lawyers and the Catholic church as a whole for their actions and non-actions regarding child abuse since the inseption of the Republic.
     
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