Good post Queens, thanks. I think we need a new manager, but to be clear if I were at games I would be cheering, not booing Arry and all the team. Booing / jeering is totally counter productive. I cheer in front of my TV or laptop!. But I don't see that saying what we think about Arry on here is disloyal to the Club, as someone, not you, seems to be saying a lot on here.
Redknapp to sign new deal Football Posted at 09:54 Queens Park Rangers manager Harry Redknapp says he may sign a contract extension "today or tomorrow". "Tony Fernandes has offered me an extension of two years. I'll sign it and won't even read it," says Redknapp. "He's been asking me for a little while, I have just not got round to doing it. Maybe today, if they put it in front of me I'll sign it." From beeb website....Harolds press conference....Holy Crap.....
Don't be soft Queens … Take stock of exactly what is happening with our club? I told you all during last season when everyone on here all got all together R's that he would dismantle that team first chance he got and he is … A man who was about to retire if we hadn't of made it up Harold survives in the game through his media presence which has been carefully crafted. Frankly he has no honour as a man and solely interested in himself first I do give him credit for our ball retention and the PR he brings and we have no option anyway well apart from the fact we can understand and accept this without losing our own values. In my mind i have been clear from day one and that comes from a QPR romantic in a dream bubble. Anyone Harold fan that tried to justify to me that he is a good manager is completely delusional IMO … he is a UK sport personality at best
Well, I will try to answer the OP, but I have done so many times before & yes I disleked him before he signed on the dotted line for us. Perhaps if Queensland were to read our posts instead of just skimming over them he would already know why! 1) Before being employed as our manager he had managed Bournemouth, Wesrt Ham, Portsmouth, Southampton & Tottenham. Of these clubs, only one of them did not enter financial problems directly after he left them. Maybe that is pure coincidence & that he was unlucky to be continually employed by financial incompetents? Or maybe his transfer policies added to the clubs woes? 2) His reputatuion for attacking play is very flawed. It did apply to Tottenham, but only after he stumbled upon the best position of gareth Bale & was saved the embarassment of selling him. It was quite easy to attack with that team, especially as they caouldn't defend. His Portsmouth side played exactly like we do. Spend all of our pocession in our own half & adopt the attitude of trying to avoid defeat rather than win the game. I can't comment on his style at Bournemouth as they didn't feature on television. Therefore I don't know how they played. He did set the pattern for his career though of going back to previous clubs for loan signings. Redknapp & Defoe were a little special for the bottom division! 3) You may say he is very economical with the truth but I would put it far stronger than that! I will only give you three examples but if you really looked for them, you would find them on a daily basis. a) At Tottenham he stated that he had never had knowledge of any playerrs contract & what their salary was. However, whilst at Rangers he suddenly knew that NO player at Tottenham was paid as much as our players. One of those statments is inaccurate. b) Transfer deadline day at Tottenham he delivers his normal statement to the press that his club will not be involved in any deals, in or out. What happens? Yes, Tottenham were involved in more deals than any other club! You may call that subterfuge, I would say that it was a dishonest answer. c) Adel Taarabt has not trained any day this pre season even though he was filmed by the club on at least two ocassions doing so. He also took him to Ireland which you would imagine would bely that statement. 4) The man is very self centrered with a reputation of being very happy to stab you in the back. Billy Bonds is definitely of this oppinion & will not even allow his name to be mentioned in his company. He is the only person in the world who has never been at fault! He may begrudge others their income, but that subject for himself is the closest to his heart. 5) He has a reputation of being a motivator! I would sugest that he makes more derogatory comments about individuals than he ever does praise. I'm sure that Darren Bent found it awe inspiring for the world to be told that Mrs. Redknapp would have scored a chance that he missed! 6) The football he has played since his appointment with us is the most turgid I have ever seen. Not the worst, but definitely the most boring. I want to win matches, not just be happy with a goal less draw! 7) He plays the media for his own means & not for the benefit of Queens Park Rangers. 8) He is a sucessful manager. I may be forgetting some achievments & his record is not too bad, but he has won divisional titles with Bournemouth & Portsmouth plus the not insignificant winning of the FA Cup. He has also been relegated or left clubs to that enevitability at least twice. I know that I am hypocritical about HR as a lot of the above could have equally been said about Jim Gregory & Terry Venables & I had no problems with them! The thought of him being offered a contract extension is so abhorent that I am questioning whether i should still use my ST & attend matches this season, let alone renew next year!
Ok all, esp danish and DT. The Op was a genuine question and not loaded or biased in any way i hope. Im obviously a bit naive to this HR phenomenon and honestly didnt think he had people against him. i guess i was probably just lead by the PR and TV stuff. i respect you guys (& Girls) who have your reasons and to be honest i cant disagree with many of them at all. Maybe (given the evidence)i need a rethink on HR and hopefully over the next few games HR and the team will make this easier for me by winning or losing. I still initially intend to give them my support (for what thats worth0 and try to be positive about them until it becomes apparent to me that things are not working. i guess we all have our own time frames for that. Some have hit crisis point already and others of us are willing to give them more time. truth is this doesnt make any one of us a better supporter nor right or wrong. just shows we all have diffrent opinions. PD, DT et al,,,you may well be correct and we may be heading for disaster. i honestly dont know. All i know is I want us to stay in this division for the next few years and in my own personall "rose tinted" view, HR seems to be the man that can do that based purely on past experience. i would honestly rather we got relegated than have Pullis at our club by the way thanks for your input all. been intresting finaly finding out why people dont like him. My only regret is that Stan and Flyer didnt post. keep the Faith all, Harry willl get us there (joke obviously!)
Thanks for that Terry. Not sure quite why you felt the need for the second sentence as i am obviously reading alll the replies to a thread i started? Doesnt make sense to me but its not important anyway. I cant disagree with anything you say and the whole point of the op was more for "you" guys to explain why you dont like him as I was completely unaware of the sentiment against him. got no intrest in arguing or putting anyone down, just intrested to know. thanks for your input
Im going to look for this Rhino, i havent bothered after reading COLIN's as it was so crap i just could do it again. I hope he had some decent amount of input into it. Thats on tomorrows shopping list
Perhaps I shouldn't have put the second sentence in Queensland, but I & many others have posted our reasons numerous times. It may be that I've mistaken you for another poster, but I thought that I had seen posts from you before that stated that you only skim read posts that you were not in agreement with. Just looked back & noticed that the OP was Queenslander & not Queensland! Sorry, that sentence was definitely addressed to the wrong person!
No worries mate, there a few of us with the same name or similar. I was actually texting the guy you are talking about as i gave him some comp seats to the Bronco's last home game tonight. (60K sell out). he's a nice bloke and has good reason to only be able to skim over. Cheers
Having read about all the portential goings on at qpr this morning....... Whats wrong with Harry? - - - He is either suffering from dementia, been eating too many wild mushrooms or has gone the whole hog and secretly had a partial lobotomy. You can make your mind up as to which
Having watched the press conference the only conclusion I can make is that he just makes everything up as he goes..... the appearance of not really having a definite clue or plans really worries me
Story gone round with Wally Downes being the original source that he presented a team sheet to the coaches last season with the starting 11 and the subs and it had Hoillet named in the starting 11 and on the bench
The team HR picked against Burton and the press conference this morning tells everything that is wrong about him. Always short term - no vision. Why 442 if you are playing 3-5-2, why SWP, why Dunne (only player to play all 270 min), why no striker (youth if others are injured). Whe not Fer (HR has said Fer needs playing time), why not Yun (Hill can´t play fullback his own words). Ready made excuse - with a weakened team he was safe - not with his best team Opportunity to have a go at individual players - he did after the game Then he comes up this morning with - we need time to gel - not using the opportunity midweek He said no team was in as bad situation in the start of the season as QPR because of many loans and short term contract - of course not his fault The gelling will be complete after the international break - new players like Isla, Vargas and Fer will be away on international duty Then please read this from Queenslander!! "All i know is I want us to stay in this division for the next few years and in my own personall "rose tinted" view, HR seems to be the man that can do that based purely on past experience. i would honestly rather we got relegated than have Pullis at our club by the way" I dont like the football Pulis is playing but he knows how the get results. Let me remind you tha when he came to Cr.Pal they where in a similar mess as QPR was when HR came aboard.
Lets be honest with ourselves for a moment. We all have our own opinions on Harry, how he's performed, is he up for it, who's he signing, what's he thinking etc etc But the fact is none of us can predict what is going to happen, most of us are still trying to recover from Wembley, while some are still trying to recover from the past screw ups, mistakes, relegations, in general the usual highs and lows that come with supporting QPR. We should all be used to it by now, we certainly shouldn't be arguing amongst ourselves, but most of all we should know by now to just let things pan out before jumping to conclusions. It's easy to say that Harry's repeating the same mistakes by dismantling the team and signing so many, but what if it all works out? What if in 4 weeks time we've won a couple of games, some of the new signings are flourishing and things are looking good? It's just as likely as all the doomsday scenarios. I understand why some don't like Harry, I personally can't remember the last time I genuinely like one of our managers. Managers are easy to dislike, you see other managers putting their foot in it and it's great to laugh at them, but when your own manager does it it's cringeworthy, and Harry's a bit of a specialist. But I think we're the only fans, or at least in part some of our fans who don't rate him, who are willing to overlook his past records and condemn him before we've built the team. I too wish that our team from last season was in a stronger shape in order for us to have been able to just bring in a few new players, capitalise on the team spirit we seemed to find in the play-offs, but we just weren't. We knew we needed a lot of new players to improve the squad, but most feared the news reports were true and we'd sign players who were ageing and had played with Harry before, but that all proved to be rubbish and nearly all the signings are young, exciting and just what we've been calling out for. Some might work, others wont. Again we just don't know until it happens, but does it not prove that Harry can prove doubters wrong? Does it serve us, the club or the players any good by fighting amongst ourselves, worrying about things that might never happen? Does nobody else think that if the negativity continues amongst ourselves that it's going to spill over and affect the players? That's my biggest fear. Sometimes when you fear something you make it happen by your actions, when it could easily have been avoided. I will respect anyone's view on any QPR subject, as long as it's backed up, my argument with many of the Anti Harry supporters is that most of their arguments are based on pure speculation of what might happen, rather than what's actually happening, it's almost become like mass hysteria. I for one have decided that until the window closes and things have settled down, I'm not going to worry about anything, not a damn thing. I'm not going to let anyone else's worries worry me and I'm certainly not going to worry about things that may never happen, what kind of logic is that. I just hope a few more of you do the same.
So for all the Harry haters? Who, out there, do you want to replace him? I like Harry. Most of our signings said they came to the club because of him. Two games in and we all gone crazy. Keep calm and let's carry on upwards.
