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This has got Magilton, Hughes and Hart written all over it

Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by danishqp, Aug 27, 2014.

  1. qprbeth

    qprbeth Wicked Witch of West12 Forum Moderator

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    That premiership team was poisonous...that run was not down to Redknapp in the slightest. He did a wonder to get the club to some degree sorted out...that prevented plummeting like Wolves did


    Very Fortunate....but last night was not a debacle. He did not want to win it, he needed to play the fringe players...and not risk the first team squad...he risked Ale and we have probably lost him for a few weeks..
    What would have happened if we played Remy and Austin, Green, Rio, Barton or Caulker and they had been injured/sent off...we would have been baying for his head.
    Last night he offered a lifeline to some of the side players, and only one tried to take him up on it.

    It was not a debacle

    Let us not go on a witch hunt
    Let us re-assess after Saturdays match....and let us see what the squad looks like on Tuesday morning

    Arry has pride like us all, he would not have stayed after Wembley if he hadn't cared about our little club...he would have gone out on a high. It is not the money that is keeping him here.

    Shut up and sit down, nothing we can do can change things, except create a toxic atmosphere around our supporters.
    See you all on Saturday
     
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  2. QPRSAM82

    QPRSAM82 Member

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    I question his team selection. In every game not just the Burton game. Jury is still out for me but nothing less then a win or at least a draw with an excellent performance against Sunderland on Sat and I am joining the Harry out brigade!
     
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  3. Ciarrai_Abu

    Ciarrai_Abu Well-Known Member

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    Hear hear.
     
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  4. Kampala Hoop

    Kampala Hoop Active Member

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    I cant believe anyone can defend Redknapp's tactical ability and knowledge of modern football. The 'gee the lads up and let their football do the talking' act is outdated and we've been found out week after week at the top table. Our money enabled us to be a polished turd in the Championship where we played terrible football and limped over the line. Credit Redknapp for getting us up, but how much was down to him rather than our board spending more money and paying off half a dozen bad eggs. I'm not sure.

    Can anyone tell me what style of football we play? What tactics we use? What sort of team we have? I have no idea, do the players? Does the manager?

    We've been a mess ever since we got promoted the first time and I see no sign of it changing. Talk of an extension to Harry's contract is laughable and frightening.

    I'm not suggesting he doesn't care, but between him and the board, do they actually know what they are doing?! That is much more concerning.

    Dear God it's come to me wanting Pulis in charge. Damn you QPR, Damn you!!!!

    I still think we'll beat Sunderland, but we just look so short term again, so imbalanced and impractical and still not a TEAM. Bringing in even more players are just papering over the mistakes we've made before. Ughhh QPR......

    Oh well. I'll be there Saturday cheering regardless of course!!!

    COME ON THE RANGERS!
     
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  5. TheLoneRanger

    TheLoneRanger Well-Known Member

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    So nice to see some level heads still around. The Harry bashing is so boring, like some arm chair managers know more then Harry does. Does anyone really believe that the team he picked wasn't good enough to beat a league 2 outfit? The players must take the blame here, not Harry, they are professionals playing the game in the top flight and if they can't beat a league 2 team then they shouldn't be with us anymore.

    I've seen some fans saying all they want is attractive football, then go on to say they want Pullis? What are you on? Do you really want to see us kick it long at every chance and hope for knock on goals? This is the manager who's main tactic was to employ long throw ins. Bad results shouldn't bring this sort of reaction from fans, especially when a week ago in was unanimous that we'd had a great transfer window for a change. Did anyone think that it would all go our way? Were you expecting champions league football next year? It's still possible technically as we've only played 2 flipping league games, in 4 games we could be top. But with the level of over reaction it's going to spill over to the support at games, the booing of players will start, the team will lose confidence and then it really could all go wrong.
     
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  6. cavanrebel

    cavanrebel Active Member

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    Only one man for the job at this stage to keep us alive in premier league ...he has done it at his last two clubs with limited resources and im sure he can do it again...TONY PULIS...as some one pointed out in another post the players he had in his back four for Palace were nobodies and kept them up when everyone thought they were doomed...not attractive football but kept his clubs in the top flight against the odds
     
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  7. Kampala Hoop

    Kampala Hoop Active Member

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    I don't think its a reaction to 2 games, I think a lot of people who paid to see that debacle last week are finally fed up with ineptitude that's been circling around for the last 18 months. I personally would rather feel stable and like we were developing, than signing a thousand players every year and this constant confusion and messing about. If being stable meant a more negative approach, developing an 'us against them' mentality, turning Loftus Road into a fortress, I'd take it - at least its a personality and a style of play, an identity, something!
     
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  8. CroydonCaptainJack

    CroydonCaptainJack Well-Known Member

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    What are you on about? Talk about over-reaction?
    You might want to re-read your own post where you needlessly slate where I live. So when I state I have heard it all before did it really justify that response?

    You have obviously then trolled back through my posts to see where I have disagreed with you before? Well in nearly 2k posts I am not really surprised!
     
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  9. IwasanotherwatfordR

    IwasanotherwatfordR Well-Known Member

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    Really worried for us. Cannot right now see three worse teams than us. even Palace with all their problems have scored 5 goals and now have the likely "bounce" from a new manager, looks like they might have Zaha too. This is not over reaction and it doesn't take long before the belief evaporates and suddenly we are 6-9 points adrift, which in the PL can be a mountain. I think the concern is not so much the results but the manner in which the last two losses have occurred.
     
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  10. QPR Oslo

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    Excellent post Kampala. Nailed on the head.
     
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  11. QPR Oslo

    QPR Oslo Well-Known Member

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    Most of all I want us to stay up this season, I cannot see realistically we can expect much more than survival. Attractive football, yes of course please, but I'll be well happy with 40 plus points, and 17th place however we get there. Pulis achieved that over many years at Stoke, where, like their football or not, they were hard to beat and survived, and still do with our reject. His rescue of Palace last season looked pretty remarkable, and I read they played some attractive football in the process. So Pulis for me yes, as long as he's not another burnt out old faart. Hoddle would I think be an improvement on Arry, but I don't think he has Pulis survival experience.
     
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  12. TheLoneRanger

    TheLoneRanger Well-Known Member

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    May I remind you that Pulis has only ever helped teams to survive, while playing the most boring football going. He spent a fortune at Stoke and in his first season, Mark Hughes achieved their highest ever position! Yes, the same mark Hughes that is seen as the anti Christ in these parts.

    So let's get this straight, you are calling for a manager that is less successful than Mark Hughes?

    Go figure!?
     
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  13. QPR Oslo

    QPR Oslo Well-Known Member

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    Not sure I agree with your figuring mate. Hughes has never done as bad as he did with us. Pulis has the record that suggests he could help us, but whether he is geared up to do that as he did at Stoke and Palace is another question.
     
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  14. QPAAAAAGH

    QPAAAAAGH Well-Known Member

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    HR has the biggest contact list of anyone in football and enables clubs to punch well above their weight in the transfer market. For that reason alone he is very useful to a club like QPR. But I think it is now plain to everyone that he is not a great coach and heavily relies on his assistants for preparation and motivation (it can't be a coincidence that our season took a serious turn for the worse when McClaren left). This time around we are relying on GH to get that job done and we all need to have our fingers crossed that he is the right appointment. If it works out I will be delighted to have HR as Director of Football for as long as he still wants to work.
     
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  15. Hoops Eternal

    Hoops Eternal Well-Known Member

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    Lack of rain in the Amazonian forests will be blamed on Harry at present. I'm not saying he's perfect because he isn't, but can we keep some sort of perspective here. We have lost two league games, had Charlie have scored that penalty against Hull we'd have lost one league game, OK, by all accounts were a shambles Sunday but you can't change a third of any team and expect them to perform like Barcelona immediately.
    I'm not bothered by the Burton result as he gave fringe players a chance to shine and apart from one or two exceptions they blew it.
    From many of the threads/posts I've read recently it's looking like a lot of you are wanting the team to fail just so they have an excuse to have a pop at Harry, and quite frankly it's all becoming a little monotonous.
     
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  16. QPR Oslo

    QPR Oslo Well-Known Member

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    I posted something similar AAAAAGH, not so well thought out as what you write. The other question for me is whether we have the room and budget for such a postion
     
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  17. Uber_Hoop

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    As usual, a very constructive and sensible contribution, Vern.
     
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  18. Uber_Hoop

    Uber_Hoop Well-Known Member

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    On Pulis (one "L", I believe)

    As I said a little while ago on another thread, I don't believe any QPR fan ever considered Pulis to be an attractive managerial appointment before the miracle he pulled off with Palace last season. Of course his stock has risen considerably because of that feat but, as others have said, there were very few admirers of his style of play whilst at the helm of Stoke City.

    I have also previously agreed with others that survival has to be the No. 1 priority this season, and then gone on to say that the subsequent 2, 3 or maybe 4 years have to really be about consolidation. Stoke perhaps have got this right, where firstly the Pulis style was used to bash out survival and consolidation, then they've realised that to kick on beyond this requires a managerial change to effect a more cultivated style.

    If there's something in this, then Pulis could be the right sort of sledgehammer to crack the survival and consolidation nut, and maybe (big maybe) the likes of Hughes and Redknapp are better equipped to manage the kick-on transition. This might explain why Hughes was crap for us, but did well for the other Premier League teams he's managed, or why Redknapp did OK at Spurs (and perhaps West Ham) but bombed at Southampton and is currently struggling here?

    Then again, I am well known for a particular brand of bollocks.
     
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  19. TheLoneRanger

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    Struggling? Really?

    We finished 4th last year having had the worst season of injuries in my lifetime, yet we still went up. Now after 2 games we're struggling? We need to stop bottling it as fans and support the team for christ sake. If in a couple of months if we're still "struggling", then we have to think about retiring Harry. Can no one on here remember what it was like under Briatore? Sacking the manager after losing a few games, the fans were going mad and calling for stability, "we want our club back" boo hoo. Now it's like he's possessed half of our fans, but maybe that's unfair to him, cause at least he gave them 10-15 games, you lot who are calling for Harry to be sacked or saying it's not working, after 2 f**ING games are the biggest bunch of bottle jobs I've ever heard.

    Support the team and give them a chance, that includes the manager!
     
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  20. Uber_Hoop

    Uber_Hoop Well-Known Member

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    If you read my previous posts on this thread you'll see I've been supporting and defending Redknapp, kemosabe. I apologise for the inflammatory use of the word 'struggling'; which term would you have me use?
     
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