Do we need Remy?

BBC saying Remy isn't interested in coming back to Newcastle. Looking for a top 7 club at least. See article here. Lets just move on and let the mercenary stew with QPR.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28832684

 

What a lame pile of crap the comment about a 'top 7 club' is.
It was a CL club a few weeks ago...

The club should say... 24 hours to say yes or we will presume it's a no and move on.

 

He can sod off. Liked his goals, but didn't like the bloke. Who the hell does he think he is?

 

We don't need him. Can't see him putting the effort in for us especially at the wages we'd be willing to pay him. So doubt his return will be as good as it was in a WC year.

 

i would still happily take him back

proven goal scorer, at £7.5m? Bargain, even if he is a mercenary
...****ing Shane Long cost £12m and he's ****e

 

I wish pardew would grow some balls and come out telling redknap to shut up and we are pleased to be shot of remy as he has no respect and thinks hes bigger than he actually is.

 

The way that Remy's QPR career has gone, tells you everything you need to know about the type of "professional" he is.

If he didn't sign with them purely for money then what on earth was it all for? Why on earth do QPR even still want him around the place?

It has to be one of the most bizarre transfer situations I can remember, smacking more of those weird South American player ownership schemes.
He's shown virtually no desire to actually play in the QPR shirt or for their fans, and has spent most of the time being shopped around.

His options are running out and he's now alienating himself very foolishly. Between QPR and NUFC for "top 7" I still know which is the better bet, and I don't even like us very much anymore!

I still expect us to get him on loan again or on an inflated deal just before the window shuts. We should leave well alone.

Short of taking a dump in the SJP center circle I dunno how much more this lad needs to do to prove he doesn't want to sign for us...

 

These are quotes from Redknapp for Christ's sake. Lord knows what relation, if any, they have to anything said by Remy.

Also, remind me again: why is it more reprehensible for Remy to shop around for the best club available than it is for NUFC (or any club) to search for the best striker available ?

 

It's reprehensible only on the basis of a player clearly having more motivation to earn more not playing football than he would playing.

Which mythical club is he looking at here within this golden "top 7" anyway? If the Liverpool deal is dead then he can only be looking at what he hopes will be club number 7.

So my view is that could be the likes of Everton, Spurs, even Manchester United at this rate. He won't get top 4, if he did he'd be like Demba Ba at Chelsea, benched and never playing.

Newcastle have designs at most of being club 7, although I can't see that. But given the signings made I'd say they have a case for convincing Remy his goals could take them there.

What we tend to find with players these days is they don't want the responsibility of EARNING a higher league finish with a team, they want it on a plate. For stupid money.

That's what the fans don't like. But beyond all of that Loic Remy simply does not want to play for Newcastle United, end of, so it's academic really.

 

We need his goals yes, but not his bad attitude.

 

The sad thing for me is that we could actually be a top 7 club if he signed for us. If he had half a ****ing brain he'd look at the signings we've made and think..you know what this might actually turn out to be a good move for me!

Sadly the longer this drags on, the more pissed off our fans will get hearing him spouting bollocks like this.

If he comes great, I'd certainly have him for the right price and he would be a fantastic signing for us. I won't lose any sleep over hi if he doesn't. I'd sooner we spent the moolah on a CB and persevere with Perez, Riviere and Cisse....at least until the Jan transfer window.!

 

Yes we need him, you always need a proven goal scorer.

But he just has zero interest in being here. In his mind there is no point leaving QPR, leaving the london lifestyle, close to his friends at Arsenal and Chelsea etc, and since he's really only in the league for money, as he's proven, then QPR is perfect for him.

 

He's been messing us about so it's a big 'no' from me.

 

We need him really. He knows the league and is a proven goalscorer. End of story for me. None of these players want to be here, they'd all prefer to play at a bigger club. There is no real loyalty anymore.

 

100%. He comes for the ball and gets it, makes stuff happen. Like Ba did before him. Under Parps, we're a bit devoid of real attacking intent, we rely too much on the individual. When you have individuals like Remy, you can get yourself the odd win and survive. When you have a Riviere or Cisse, who really need attacking support and tactical awareness up top, which we struggle with. So like it or not we need someone like Remy. I don't like it, I don't "want" him but given the choice I'd take him yesterday.

 

Spot on, don't like the bloke, but we're desperate for goals. Looks like they're not giving up on him just yet.


http://www.newsnow.co.uk/A/730453590?-11058:809

 

Sadly goal.com are utterly unreliable. I mean, just say Welbeck is a top target - why would we be resigned to him not coming here? We have good relations with Man U, he will neither interest nor will they want to sell him to a CL club, Everton have signed Lukaku and Eto'o. Who's left? Tottenham? Yep, they're more appealing but after that it's us. I can't see Levy sanctioning a move given the amount they spent on Soldado, and the fact Adebayor's there, and the fact Kane is improving. Might be wrong.

For what it's worth I think Welbeck would be excellent for this club, under Pardew. He could well save Pardew, because he works hard, runs channels and is unselfish. If we had a more attacking manager, I'd rather see us go for a PEA or Lacazette, but I fear that style of player will struggle under our rudderless ship. Welbeck knows the PL and will just grab it by the scruff of the neck.

Unfortunately we are still as far as 8/1 to buy him, so it's unlikely, but whether it divides opinion or not, signing a full England International would send out a fantastic statement of intent.

 

I think the likes of Riviere/Cisse may do better over time once SDJ/Cabella get up to speed with the league in terms of pace/physicality. Our attacking play will hopefully improve once they get to know each other better. Too much is made of patterns of play etc etc. Under KK we didn't really have defined ways of attacking teams and a large extent was left to the players natural ability and instinct to create. Under Robson it was similar but to a lesser extent because it was really more about exploiting our pace. Therefore we had to play in a way which did that. That meant at times being more direct to than say a KK team so that we'd stick the ball to a Shearer, and the likes of Dyer, Robert, Bellamy would arrive at pace from deeper.

I think we do need the one thing that requires patience though if we don't go and get a Remy type. Time. Maybe a loan would suit all parties if they believe in Riviere. You could buy time for him SDJ, Cabella, knowing some solidity would lead to nicking games by having a Remy to make things happen. Then come the end of the loan he still has the freedom to get his desired big move. Of course ideally he commits permanently and we just improve!

 

I like Welbeck and would be interested to see how he'd get on as the main man rather than just shifting around positions covering others. His record does not exactly reek of a regular scorer of course but he is only 23. The good thing is he can hold the ball and knows the league. I'd be very surprised to see him interested in a move here. I also don't think we'd pay a huge fee which Man U will want given the money they are lashing around.

 

Yes, I understand the nature, I guess it depends on what we/anyone expects from a manager, they're all different. Tactical awareness and patterns seem to be doing fck all for Louis van Gaal! But that said, I'd like to see something more basic like players getting into the box and a fcking corner that somehow works!! The set-piece failures for me are inexplicable. I don't say that Pards wants to fail, by the way, just that he's very limited.

I think a loan option for Welbeck would be the best option, rather than Remy. He'd still have that chance to succeed at his home-town club in his mind, and as an Englishman is more likely to become loyal to a grateful Toon Army if he succeeds. Remy will be greeted with understandable scepticism, Welbeck with perhaps more optimism, probably moreso than Lacazette who may be tagged as 'another Frenchie'! I'm not sure we'll do the deal, but it doesn't half make a lot of sense if we did.