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Rosberg-Hamilton Incident Debate

Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by EternalMSC, Aug 24, 2014.

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Who's Fault?

  1. Rosberg Caused The Crash? (Should Have Backed Out?)

  2. Hamilton's Fault? (Cut Across - Lack of Awareness?)

  3. Both at fault/Incident/50:50

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  1. Max Whiplash

    Max Whiplash Well-Known Member

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    I think you make a very good point but double points for the last race is just plain wrong and another example of why this sport is so ****ed up. I have actually tried to stay away from F1 this season because I feel it has passed a tipping point of credibility. Unfortunately, after being a fan for 30-odd years it hasn't been easy to kick this habit. However, events like yesterday's only underline what a mess of a sport F1 has become: Magnussen was penalised yet Rosberg gets off scot-free - again! No consistency = no credibility.
     
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  2. u408379965

    u408379965 Well-Known Member

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    Rosberg's simply misjudged his front wing. No way would you make contact like that on purpose because nine times out of ten you'll come off worse.

    His comments to Lewis afterwards were clearly mindgames. Twice this season Rosberg has had to take evasive action to avoid a collision after being swiped by Hamilton, and he's letting Hamilton know he won't get away with it any more. His statement after the race will only incense Hamilton further: "The opportunity was there even without DRS because I was so much quicker". Hamilton will hate that.

    All this season it's been Hamilton sounding off and Rosberg diffusing the situation, but it looks like Rosberg's tired of playing peacekeeper and is now trying to get under Hamilton's skin, and I think he'll be far more successful with the mindgames than Hamilton has been.

    I think one of them will leave at the end of the season and it will probably be Hamilton if he doesn't win the title. I was surprised when Mercedes extended Rosberg's contract because having them both on short deals gave them some leverage when dealing with situations like this. I don't think it's any coincidence that Rosberg's waited until his contract was confirmed before being more confrontational. Mercedes ****ed up massively in signing that so early.
     
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  3. TomTom94

    TomTom94 Well-Known Member

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    Magnussen and Rosberg's incidents were completely different, one was an aggressive defence and one was a clumsy attack. It's perfectly logical that the FIA would treat both differently.
     
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  4. u408379965

    u408379965 Well-Known Member

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    Same here. The last few years I've been telling myself they'll sort things out and then instead of fixing the existing problems they add a load more. I used to follow the sport religiously, I'd watch every session and was deeply interested in the technical side but the last couple of years I've been drifting further away. I missed the Hungarian grand prix and didn't even bother with the highlights despite it being such a classic. It just doesn't seem to mean anything any more because the series has been completely undermined as a sport.
     
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  5. Max Whiplash

    Max Whiplash Well-Known Member

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    It's one thing to treat both differently but another to exonerate Rosberg while punishing Magnussen. Even Toto and Niki said Rosberg's actions were "unacceptable".

    I'm hitting middle age now and I have asked myself whether the way I feel is just me getting old but then I look at octogenarian Bernie and his endless lucrative deals to build tracks in places where there is no fan base and I realise that this has nothing to do with age nor sport either, it's just greed. All the substance of the sport has been hollowed out to please the financiers. Sadly, it's just symptomatic of how our 'civilisation' is moving in general.
     
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  6. Justjazz

    Justjazz Well-Known Member

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    My experience is that the sport goes through changes and it takes a while to reach credibility again. The 50 points was/is clearly dumb and unfair. It was an attempt to persuade teams to carry on developing till the end. Perhaps a worthy cause but wrong answer. The funding is all wrong too, we the fans know that so why don't they fix it. They should allow more in season testing, then it would help, not unlimited but more. Perhaps an extra day at some/majority of each race with reserve drivers only at the wheel.
    Whatever else you feel there has been some close racing this season, ignoring Mercedes of course.
     
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  7. BrightLampShade

    BrightLampShade Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Don't worry, it could be worse <ok>




    If you have 30s spare, please vote for me http://fanboost.fiaformulae.com @FIAformulaE and I will get an extra 50bhp for 5s!
     
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  8. Mark Blow

    Mark Blow Well-Known Member

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    Rosberg can say he was quicker all we wants, he wasn't, and he knows it and so does Hamilton so Rosberg's words will be pointless. Of he'd been fast enough he would have got by.
     
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  9. ErnieBecclestone

    ErnieBecclestone Well-Known Member

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    You sound just like me, what 'civilisation' I say.
     
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  10. Max Whiplash

    Max Whiplash Well-Known Member

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    Well, quite! In other news, Boris Johnson calls for the end of "innocent until proven guilty".
     
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  11. ErnieBecclestone

    ErnieBecclestone Well-Known Member

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    Oh well, yes, thats another whole can of worms probably best discussed in private mate, what the f**k are we going to do with these types.
     
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  12. Max Whiplash

    Max Whiplash Well-Known Member

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    It was kind of off-topic but it just happened to be what I had been reading before I saw your post. Anyway, do you think the FIA will do anything about Rosberg? Their credo nowadays seems to be that there's no such thing as bad publicity and yet global F1 audiences are in decline: I wonder why.
     
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  13. GramP

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    Rosberg was quicker in Lap 2 Sector 1, NR = 31.676 v LH = 32.124
     
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  14. Max Whiplash

    Max Whiplash Well-Known Member

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    How do they compare on lap 33? Oh, wait... We never got to see it.
     
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  15. ErnieBecclestone

    ErnieBecclestone Well-Known Member

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    Obviously, not fast enough.

    The more I think about it, the greater my suspicion that Rosberg was inclined not to avoid any contact.
     
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  16. Eat Sleep Watch F1 Repeat

    Eat Sleep Watch F1 Repeat Active Member

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    He had the benefit of a slip stream behind Hamilton though up to Eau Rouge and then down Kemmel.
     
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  17. TomTom94

    TomTom94 Well-Known Member

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    Rosberg had every right to be there but it's telling that Vettel was in the exact same position one lap earlier and backed out when tits became upwardly inclined.
     
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  18. ErnieBecclestone

    ErnieBecclestone Well-Known Member

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    Nah, the FIA are not interested in justice, anyway nothing can be proven and what would be the contrived penalty, interestingly Rosberg's fan base seems to be minimal to say the least and diminishing race by race, I would much rather Hamilton get on with what he's so f**ing good at and win the WDC despite all adversity, that's the way to do it, eh.

    Now that would raise the viewing figures.

    Comon Lewis get in that f**ing car and show em FFS son !!!!!!
     
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  19. Justjazz

    Justjazz Well-Known Member

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    If the report of the post race meeting is half accurate then Rosberg has won. He clearly wants to force team orders believing it will favour him more than Lewis. He spent 3 weeks fearing Lewis's drives from last and decided his best tactic was team orders from now on. The more u think about it the more obvious it is. Toto Wolfe...not convinced I trust him. I trust Lauda. Lewis beware!
     
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  20. Justjazz

    Justjazz Well-Known Member

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    He wants Lewis out of the team next year too or team orders in his favour as the then reigning champ (but hopefully not). I smell a rat.
     
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