Not a knocking thread, but I was checking the Huddersfield and Palace manager markets for investment purposes - and Chris Powell does not get a mention in either of them. This is strange - CP is an ex Palace player and still lives in their catchment area. And Huddersfield would seem like a good route back in, given his experience as a Championship manager. I think it was Sam Allardyce who recently quoted the statistic that 50% of football managers never get another job after losing their first one.
I heard CP last week doing the co-commentery at Brighton for TalkSport. Perhaps he decided there was less stress in media.
I thought CP was being heavily linked with 'udders last Friday? If he's been fully removed from the bookies odds, it's possible either party has ruled out the move over the weekend.
72% of statistics are made up too Vol Yeah, as Super said I thought he was heavily linked with Huddersfield, he may be waiting for something more local, such as Fulham on Wednesday after Megath is sacked.
I think he'll have to drop down a division if he wants to rebuild his managerial career. Whatever he achieved with us in 2 seasons the fact is he was sacked in the end, and is therefore damaged goods, whether that's right or wrong is a different matter. You can't argue with his success as a L1 manager, whether that's what he wants only he knows. I think we'd all wish him success if he does start again.
PS How many managerial jobs has Curbs had since he left the Wets? I do not believe it is a reflection of Chris's ability that he has not found another managers job just yet but it does require an owner willing to take a chance on a black manager.
Cellino reverses his decision to sack Hockaday at Leeds. They really could be in trouble this season.
I don't believe he is damaged goods. Standing up to an owner who wants his own way is no disgrace. His ability may be questioned but not his moral stance.
Their season is in danger with Cellino in charge anyway, he goes through managers quicker than Katie Price does boyfriends. Hockaday was a crazy appointment anyway but the chairman is a loose screw, makes me feel grateful for RD compared to Cellino or the Blackpool fella
To be brutally honest, if I were a club owner, I would seriously have to think twice before employing a black manager. Not because of any bigotry, but because the fallout from sacking him would be ridiculous, and the accusations of racism would not be worth the hassle in the long run. Having said that, if I had a League One club, a million to spend on players, and a decent infrastructure, I could certainly work with a thoroughly decent chap such as Chris Powell. Whether or not he'd last beyond the next two seasons is doubtful, though.
I don't really think that would be a factor in any owner's thinking. There was absolutely no suggestion whatsoever that Powell's dismissal was based on racism, and rightly so. I think if Powell or any other black manager was appointed, failed (or at least wasn't as successful as the owner wanted), and then got the sack no-one would try and accuse the owner of racism. Powell was only briefly a Palace player at the start of his career, so that wouldn't be a reason to employ him, particularly given the long association with Charlton.
But if Powell gets sacked as he was instantly headlines wouldn't say "manager in poor run sacked" it says "Black Manager Chris Powell sacked" That was the daily Mail headline granted but still, sort of backs up my point.
With all due respect, I think you're wrong there, Captain B. Although there are no direct insinuations and accusations made, there is a general consensus among associations and individuals that not enough black men are given a chance in management - and that in itself is a veiled hint at racism within the game. There is a lot to be read between the lines and one does not need a microscope to see it. And, as previously mentioned, it would be easier to avoid any scandal. Sad but true.
Fair points. I guess then the problem is the owner anticipating what public reaction would be to sacking a black manager, and thus deciding against appointing him, rather than what the public reaction actually is and has been following a dismissal. None of the clubs who have had black managers and sacked them - us, Norwich, Brentford (Leroy Rosenior), Newcastle (Chris Hughton), plus possibly others I can't think of right now - have been blacklisted (no pun intended) as racist. It is a sad state of affairs.
Nicely put, Captain B. Perhaps not blacklisted per se, but I bet a few mouthpieces and activists have a fair amount to say behind closed doors. Eventually, though, an outright accusation of bigotry will surface and then all progress will be lost in an instant. Owners and chairman will see the hiring of a black man as a risk not worth taking, if not already. Does this mirror the wider society? I don't think it does, but then football obviously carries greater scrutiny than most professions.
How did race become an issue in a thread about Powell not getting another manager's job ? Paul Ince has had plenty of chances at about 6 league clubs, Chris Hughton has managed at 3. Black footballers are also disproportionately represented in the media, where they very often gets roles despite their lack of eloquence (Ian Wright, Rio Ferdinand, Les Ferdinand etc) because they are black. Every time that complete clown Jason Roberts stands on his soapbox, as he has done again over Malky Mackay, he also sets their cause back as they just end up looking like another branch of the Grievance Industry. Anyone remember Terry Connor, and his dozen game stint as manager of Premier League Wolves? He lost just about every game. Was he sacked because he was black?. Or because he was ****...
