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O/T Ebola

Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by ristac, Aug 24, 2014.

  1. ristac

    ristac Well-Known Member
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    So a volunteer health care worker goes to Sierra Leone and catches Ebola, it was their brave choice to go but should they really be brought back to the UK and risk spreading the infection to others that have no choice but to have to transport and care for them now?
     
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  2. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    Perhaps hock could do one of those good pr hospital visits.
     
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    Totally agree. I have the highest regard for what they're doing, but would never allow them back into the country for fear of an epidemic here. I know that all sorts of measures are taken to prevent this, but it's a point of principle for me, so no matter what the assurances are re. security/safety, they should be treated in isolation wherever they caught it.

    I know we go to extremes to rescue people, like pulling clowns off mountains wearing trainers & tshirts etc., but there is no risk of epidemic with this - just good people risking their lives for idiots.

    I'll probably take pelters for this now!
     
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  4. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    But we let dirty sweaties in!
     
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  5. ristac

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    I feel very strongly about it, I know you can't put a cost on human life but another point: how much has this cost bringing them back to the UK and do we make the same kind of effort when we have other sick UK citizens around the world? What makes this particular case so different to anyone else in another country with a life threatening illness??

    I totally agree, treat them over there by all means but why bring them back and risk spreading an epidemic, I feel this is an exercise and excuse for a real life test to see how we can cope with this kind of thing happening.
     
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  6. Whitejock

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    Because you know you have to improve your gene pool! :grin:
     
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  7. Chippy / Glory

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    By never breeding.
     
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  8. EIO

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    In short ...NO
    He is being brought back to a ward in a hospital in Central London ffs, with a virus for which their is no known cure, a virus that has an incubation period of between three and twenty one days. If by some unfortunate chance the virus is passed on to another health care worker, how many other people could be infected before we are aware of it and this in a city that has connections with almost every major city in the world, unlike the source of the outbreak in West Africa which has largely been contained within rural, isolated villages............MADNESS

    If we look back to the BSE and Foot and Mouth outbreaks, farms were put into quarantine, affected cattle destroyed and all for a disease that does not affect humans solely to protect the farming industry........yet our 'learned' leaders deem this course of action to be acceptable.

    The logical course of action would be to keep this individual isolated, in the area where he has contracted the virus, to contain the spread of the virus.

    What is to stop extremists from gaining access to this isolation ward in Hampstead, contracting the virus themselves and spreading it throughout the UK ??? a far more effective pursuit of holy jihad than blowing themselves up..


    The only truly effective measure to prevent this virus reaching the UK is to close the borders completely, nobody in .......at all....
    obviously this is not a viable option but neither is allowing somebody with the virus to be transported here for treatment...
    if the reason is humanitarian...then why not bring back everybody who has contracted the virus, for treatment ????

    I repeat "The logical course of action would be to keep this individual isolated, in the area where he has contracted the virus, to contain the spread of the virus." If he dies then at least he has not put at risk 70 million people in the UK...
    brutal...but logical
     
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  9. BoggersMOT

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    Guys, I can understand the irritation over the cost given that the NHS struggles to pay for other lifesaving treatment. But in this case, the guy travelled in a sealed box. He moved from the aircraft to the ambulence in a sealed box. He then moved from the ambulence to the hospital ISOLATION ward in a sealed box where the air is filtered and cleaned. There was only one chance of there being a problem if the plane crashed.

    Let's knock this one on the head before it gets silly.
     
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    ....or he could be brought to the Den and he'd be isolated there..:wink:
     
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    what...and put his life in danger !!!!!!!!!!!
     
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  12. leeds60

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    sorry but I think we have sent a message to the rest of the world every British citizen of whatever creed is worth saving we are duty bound to care for everyone this is what makes us such a great country
     
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  13. Whitejock

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    I'm all for saving this person's life, but I can see no justification in introducing risk into this country when it can be dealt with at source. And that is my issue in a nutshell.

    I doubt if the NHS would have paid for the transport, Boggers. More likely it was the charity's insurance that footed the bill. I hope!
     
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    <laugh> good come back...I'll you that one<applause>
     
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    Apart from David Haigh
     
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  16. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    Thanks for cheering me up on a grim day.... I had forgotten about our light fingered philanthropist.
     
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  17. leeds60

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    How would you feel if it was one of your sons
     
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    I was just about to say this, or along them lines. Of course they should be brought back you heartless bastards :wink:
     
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  19. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    If Haigh was my son I would have drowned him and slapped the wife.
     
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  20. leeds60

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    Glory is not Haigh we are talking about its about a young very brave youngman who now needs all the nursing care and support to get him through
     
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