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Rosberg-Hamilton Incident Debate

Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by EternalMSC, Aug 24, 2014.

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Who's Fault?

  1. Rosberg Caused The Crash? (Should Have Backed Out?)

  2. Hamilton's Fault? (Cut Across - Lack of Awareness?)

  3. Both at fault/Incident/50:50

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  1. EternalMSC

    EternalMSC Well-Known Member

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    What can Nico do after being booed. It is simply a medieval response to anything, not constructive at all. Glad he handled it well. Would like to think what would happen if Hamilton made the same mistake, he has done many times in the past, yet no account of being booed. Stupid, fanatical, degenerates.
     
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  2. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    As I suspected when it first happened, it all stems from Hamilton's chop in Bahrain.
     
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  3. BrightLampShade

    BrightLampShade Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Strange to admit through, if it could be proven it opens up stewards action technically?
     
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  4. TomTom94

    TomTom94 Well-Known Member

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    This occurs to me as well. Personally I think it's just Nico trying to get inside Hamilton's head. Given Hamilton's attitude later in the race, might even be working.
     
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  5. Max Whiplash

    Max Whiplash Well-Known Member

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    One day, Lewis will probably do something for which he gets booed. As for calling it medieval, look to the Middle East for that; booing is a standard expression of disapproval, it's hardly a public beheading, is it? Or even a staged one, if the academics are to be believed.
     
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  6. EternalMSC

    EternalMSC Well-Known Member

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    Nothing constructive came of it. It is a sport at the end of the day not the Scottish referendum.

    Bullying moreover, no doubt Nico has the class to shrug it off.
     
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  7. Poolliver LallanaDelRey

    Poolliver LallanaDelRey Member

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    Not sure about the quote you posted. Any evidence to back that up?

    However I approve of the gif (although it is not the best camera angle). A secondary camera angle on sky was used to show the space Rosberg had on his left to back out in just before the incident took place. If you assume that a driver defaultly believes his competitor will take the racing line (which Hamilton hit bang on in sky's analysis); then not taking that space and backing out would be evidence of a driver making a rookie mistake.

    However, my point is: that is all it was! It was a racing incident and although I don't discourage Rosberg's criticism for doing something silly... He did not deserve a penalty or having any points taken away in my opinion.

    Simply a misjudgement, and Hamilton was unfortunate (again) to pick up the damage he did.
     
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  8. BrightLampShade

    BrightLampShade Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    No evidence, just relaying what twitter journo's are saying etc :)



    Will Buxton ‏@willbuxton 6m
    Print press who were in Hamilton briefing writing story up now. Will be with you soon. Some very excitable scribes in media centre right now


    Racing incident to me as well, unless what Hamilton said turns out to be true which makes things very awkward for the team " I purposely ruined a 1-2"
     
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  9. TheJudeanPeoplesFront

    TheJudeanPeoplesFront Well-Known Member

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    Well every time he's done it he's got a penalty, as has been the norm in F1 for years, but apparently some bright spark decided over the summer not punishing errors that cost the victim majorly was sensible <doh>

    Like I say. Booing is just a bit of fun. And medieval? Try proto-historic <ok>

    Let's face it, fans have very few avenues of being able to interact with a sporting event. If there's cheering, there will also be booing. It's not a new thing to F1 or any sport, like some of the old biffers will have you believe. A football player being killed by fans throwing rocks should put it all into perspective <ok>

    Rosberg's mentality in reaction is important though. British fans are some of the best F1 followers on earth, and because he's vying against a Brit-favourite, I dare say he expected it in some form or another, given the frosty-ish relationship between Lewis and him now. I bet, if he wins the world title, as now looks likely, he won't be booed on the podium.
     
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  10. EternalMSC

    EternalMSC Well-Known Member

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    This is F1 not Football, I hope our motorsport never reaches the depths of what football has become. - From what I have heard recently about a player dying after being struck down by rocks.
     
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  11. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    allowed it to happen isn't the same as purposefully causing it, he simply did to Hamilton what Hamilton, Massa and Perez do, put it in there and expect people to make room
     
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  12. Max Whiplash

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    No, it wasn't constructive but it wasn't meant to be. It was saying: 'I don't like what happened and I want to express that'. No doubt it was amplified by a crowd mentality but I fully endorse the right of anyone who has paid for a ticket to make a verbal protest. If one compares this to the kind of violence we see in football, for example, it was a pretty pussy-footed protest, anyway.
     
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  13. BrightLampShade

    BrightLampShade Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    He's entitled to play rough but its all part of the game, you don't tell your team that you purposely hit your team mate <laugh>
     
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  14. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    I think it's the other way around, I think Rosbergs was pointing out to the team that it's always him that has to take avoiding action because of the way Lewis drives, when he decides to drive like Lewis there's an accident. He's trying to get the team to rein in Hamilton so when he gets in front he doesn't have Hamilton all over him.
     
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  15. Poolliver LallanaDelRey

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    Agree what you are saying to a degree. I am a football fan as you may have gathered but in way condone the misconduct and violence associated. Although what I say may not be politically correct I feel the f1 fan base has a more premium and sophisticated respect behind it and it should never loose that.

    That being said, these cars are effectively capable death machines driving at speeds that we as humans struggle to control. When one of the respected pilots does something idiotic and dangerous he deserves some criticism from pundits and fans. Today protests (if you can call them that) were not violent and consisted of a little bit of booing..

    I don't think that will discredit the sport
     
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  16. BrightLampShade

    BrightLampShade Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    That would be a (kinda) reasonable thing to do but he chose the wrong moment. Hamilton wasn't doing anything wrong at that moment, if he had swiped at Rosberg and they collided then it'd be on Hamilton. As it was it turned into Rosberg being clumsy on purpose :s
     
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  17. dhel

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    I think it's Hamilton's fault.... Last race Rosberg expected Hamilton to stop so he could overtake and he was mad because Hamilton refused to pull aside. Now I believe Rosberg expected Hamilton to pull aside for him to overtake again and Hamilton didn't so he chopped his rear tyre.<laugh>
    Seriously though I have been watching Rosberg and he seems to have a serious problem overtaking. When the track is clear with very few in front of him, and Rosberg has his DRS he makes his passes but when he is in a pack, or running up to corners he is really lacking. Remember the laps behind JEV? He is not a very good overtaker. How did he expect to clear Hamilton, Alonso and Ricciardo in the last race is beyond me. Rosberg is good racing from the front... Has he ever won coming from behind second if the ones in front didn't retire? Just asking.

    And if it is true that Rosberg said he did it to prove a point them the stewards should have another look at that.
     
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  18. allsaintchris.

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    Compared to what the Spanish fans used to do to Lewis, booing is very mild.
     
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  19. EternalMSC

    EternalMSC Well-Known Member

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    This. Also Rosberg does lack in the overtaking department. Remember vs. Schumacher Spa 2010. Or vs. Vergne Korea once?
     
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  20. Julius Caesar

    Julius Caesar Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Given how Wolff and Lauda have reacted I don't think it's worked.
     
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