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Rosberg-Hamilton Incident Debate

Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by EternalMSC, Aug 24, 2014.

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Who's Fault?

  1. Rosberg Caused The Crash? (Should Have Backed Out?)

  2. Hamilton's Fault? (Cut Across - Lack of Awareness?)

  3. Both at fault/Incident/50:50

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  1. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    well, they definitely did at Germany, so the precedent was set there.
     
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  2. TheJudeanPeoplesFront

    TheJudeanPeoplesFront Well-Known Member

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    Wonderful. So we have a one race precedent now!

    I think we can all agree this will make things quite dicey and juicy in future, if the chap behind bares no blame for throwing one from nowhere at the guy in front!!! <ok>
     
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  3. TomTom94

    TomTom94 Well-Known Member

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    I agree with Miggins, I distinctly remember it being mentioned before the summer break. I'm not quite sure how you haven't heard about it, because it's been mentioned pretty prominently since the Perez incident.
     
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  4. BrightLampShade

    BrightLampShade Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    I enjoyed Rosbergs answer on the podium, "I've not yet seen it"...... ermmmm, weren't you, oh never mind.

    Would love to be a fly on the wall in the Mercedes office this evening!
     
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  5. allsaintchris.

    allsaintchris. Well-Known Member

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    You'll be able to hear it from the Belgium border......
     
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  6. TheJudeanPeoplesFront

    TheJudeanPeoplesFront Well-Known Member

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    Well I haven't. And evidently I'm not the only one, so if we could be less patronising and get back to the incident <ok>
     
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  7. Poolliver LallanaDelRey

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    To be fair, what would you say if you had a made a silly mistake which led to an external and internal witch hunt? The best thing for Mercedes is to limit what they say publicly and sort things out internally.

    That being said, I didn't appreciate his dig at GB fans and his comments about "reading rules" considering he "had not seen the incident" - but I am being bitter and biased there.

    On the incident itself: Rosberg was clearly at fault, Hamilton was on the racing line and left Rosberg room to back out and stay behind him (see the replay if you don't believe me - clear as day, there was space to the left). Saying that it he should not be villainised for a racing incident, he was entitled to make a move, his mistake was that of a rookie in pulling behind to late and not controlling his front wing.

    The biggest kick in the teeth and frustration for me as a Hamilton fan was the awful luck that occurred with the puncture. I swear Hamilton has been cursed by a Massa fan ever since his championship win. Baring 2010 almost all of his misfortunes have been down to luck.
     
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  8. canarian

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    After Rosberg's view of the incident today, we have witnessed him turning into a right arrogant turd.
     
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  9. TomTom94

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    I'm not being patronising, I'm simply point out the flaws in your argument. You believe Rosberg was out of line? How? He had every right to try and overtake Hamilton, he was alongside going into turn 4, he just didn't have enough speed to hang it out around the outside, tried to drop back, and ended up in the wrong place at the wrong time. It wasn't deliberate, he just fortuitously came off best. There are cases where people go for stupid overtakes, Maldonado on Gutierrez in Bahrain is an example, but I don't think this is one of them.
     
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  10. BrightLampShade

    BrightLampShade Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Sometimes its better to just come out and be honest. I can see the benefit of not stirring the mess any more but in this case it just makes him look dastardly. Claiming not to see an incident when you go into the back of someone isn't going to endear you to anyone :(
     
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  11. TheJudeanPeoplesFront

    TheJudeanPeoplesFront Well-Known Member

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    <laugh>

    That might be a compliment, though. He'll need everything he can to beat Hamilton, who really is the superior driver when he's not being yampi, so being aggressive and arrogant is necessary.

    I found I felt the opposite after his interview with the BBC. Looked like a kid near tears, making excuses when they told him about what the Mercedes lot have been saying. He's not enjoying it as much as a truly arrogant turd would, I think.
     
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  12. Dalziel or no Dalziel

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    I reckon the memory of Hamilton ignoring team orders and costing Rosberg a probable win in Hungary may have been playing on his mind.
     
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  13. TheJudeanPeoplesFront

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    He's been reading the Wenger book of proverbs! <ok>

    Nobody should blame Rosberg for continuing and getting 18 points, he drove quite well after the incident, and made some good passing moves. What was he supposed to do? The stewards cock up and don't punish him, so he decides to screw the team over and stop for 60 seconds to be as far back as Hamilton? Nobody would do that. The booing was funny, but I don't think people should go overboard making statements about his character. Rosberg's quite likeable, and certainly preferable to... I dunno.... Vettel?!
     
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  14. di Fredsta!

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    How is Hamilton the superior driver? Just by being slightly faster when the pressure is off?
    This year has proved that he can't handle the pressure like Rosberg can and when it really matters he crumbles. Hamilton is faster, I agree but Rosberg is much more complete and knows exactly what he needs to do to win the championship.
    After Spain, I'm sure Hamilton became complacent as he had won 4 in a row and then Rosberg did his homework to know where he needs to beat Hamilton and the "comeback" (of sorts) has just completely beaten him mentally.
     
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  15. Number 1 Jasper

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    That's two in the team then .
     
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  16. BrightLampShade

    BrightLampShade Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    He was still on for the win after the incident, he just ruined his front trying to get Vettel and so despite it all he was still on for the win. Rosberg did what he needed after the incident, and even the incident was mostly a racing one. The only bit that annoyed me today was Rosbergs lack of honesty. Much like Vettel at Malaysia against Webber, the ignoring team orders part didn't bother me to much, jus this claim that he 'misunderstood' don't overtake <doh>

    Rosberg should have just said I misjudged it and we lightly touched. For me thats that, but for now it'll just drag on and snowball!
     
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  17. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    the title of articles didn't mention Hamilton, how would he have heard of it? I now start to see why Benson mentions Hamilton in every article, it makes his viewing figures rise
     
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  18. Max Whiplash

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    I don't think that there was malice aforethought from Nico today, unlike Monaco quail, but, just as in Hungary, Nico appears to have a weakness in overtaking and racing wheel-to-wheel.

    I still don't get all the condemnation for the crowd booing; by the same token, we should all stop expressing our opinions on this forum or anywhere else. Across society there seems to be a momentum to stifle freedom of speech; as such, I applaud everyone who expressed their displeasure by booing: why shouldn't they, they paid to be there, after all?
     
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  19. BrightLampShade

    BrightLampShade Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Will throw this in for reference :)

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    Also, wonder if true? Will change anyones opinion from either side?

    ESPN F1 &#8207;@ESPNF1 4s
    Lewis Hamilton says Nico Rosberg has admitted in post-race meeting he allowed contact to happen "to prove a point" #f1
     
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  20. TomTom94

    TomTom94 Well-Known Member

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    Mind games.
     
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