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  1. The Mighty Thor

    The Mighty Thor Well-Known Member

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    Scotland and North Sea oïl have nothing to do with each other as the oïl is in international waters so it's a non starter as an argument for Scotland.

    This reminds me of Scotland's obsession ie the Jacobite Rebellion with Salmond in the role of Bonny prince Charlie. Charlie had Englishmen with him at Culloden who wanted Scotland to win and the Duke of Cumberland had Scotsmen with him who wanted Scotland to lose. As today there are Englishmen supporting Scotland and Scots supporting the union. So the third verse of the anthem is apt;


    "Grant ye that Marshall Wade, sealed by thy mighty aid, victory bring.
    May he sedition hush and like a torrent rush,REBELLIOS SCOTS TO CRUSH.
    God save The Queen." The no votes will win it just as like Culloden.
     
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  2. Swords Hoopster.

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    I just don't get that at all to be honest. Being pro-Scottish is not anti-English. I can't remember Salmond ever saying anything anti-English tbh.

    Nevertheless, I think the Scots should vote no and stick with a Union that's worked very well for 300-odd years. Its up to them though.
     
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  3. Swords Hoopster.

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    And every time Englishmen say sh*t like that, the YES campaign gets a shot in the arm.

    Believe me when I say this: There is nothing that will get a Celts back up more than an arrogant Englisher giving it the old Johnny Bull big 'un.

    And every time Cameron opens his big mouth, a thousand votes are banked by Salmond. You probably don't understand this but I guarantee it!
     
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  4. Spurf

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    You do talk some bollocks TMT.
     
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  5. The Mighty Thor

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    Where's the bollocks Spurf? Read up about Culloden, Charlie had English fighting with him, fact.
     
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  6. The Mighty Thor

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    Where's the sh*t Swords? Culloden still hurts doesn't it?
     
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    I don't understand what will happen to things like Scotland's defence and public healthcare after independence. In practical terms, how do you separate the provision of these services from the rest of the UK? The idea that you can break off a tenth or so of such complex and highly integrated services is preposterous. Any answers?
     
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  8. Swords Hoopster.

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    What the FU*K has that got to do wi' the independence vote next month?

    Are you seriously bringing up a battle between two Royalist armies hundreds of years ago in an argument about a modern democratic referendum?

    I'm still in two minds as to whether you're taking the piss or not :huh:
     
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  9. The Mighty Thor

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    I posted that it REMINDS me of the Jacobite rebellion when a small detachment of the MANCHESTER REGIMENT fought with Bonnie prince Charlie and today we have English supporting Scotch independence so nothing much has changed. Many clans fought with the Duke of Cumberland for theunion and many Scots want to remain in the union, same difference as far as I can see. The Jacobites did not want to be part of the union and neither do Salmond's Scots Nats so it reminds me of the Jacobite Rebellion, why so angry?
     
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  10. Spurf

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    Not talking about Culloden TMT I am refering to your nonsense about Oil.

    Not angry btw. <ok>
     
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  11. The Mighty Thor

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    The oïl is in international waters because a nation can only claim three miles out from its coast as its own waters so Scotland DOES NOT OWN THE OIL IN THE NORTH SEA. So where is the nonsense ? I was asking Swords why he is so angry not you.
     
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  12. Spurf

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    You need to get up to date young man. 12 miles. You will not get very far trying to suggest that this is not Scotlands oil.

    International law will cover this very well.
     
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  13. The Mighty Thor

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    The oilfields are much further out than that though at least the majority of them are. It's like Argentina's claim to the Falklands which are 300 miles out to sea so no sorry, neither can claim anything as theirs.
     
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    Welcome to the board Take the High Road <ok>
     
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    You can see the shaded areas denoting Scotlands Oil.
     
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  16. Swords Hoopster.

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    You've just won the award for most absurd thing I've heard in the Scottish referendum debate to date..............................and that took some beating!

    Do me a favour. If you want the Scots to vote NO, keep your mouth firmly closed from now on, could you?
     
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  17. The Mighty Thor

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    Seeing as Scotland is not a sovereign state on its own it cannot claim anything as it's the UK's oïl.Now which of any of these oïl rigs is within 12 miles of anybody's borders? Also in 1999 Blair handed over 6000 square miles of "Scotland's" sea to England and that fact is not widely known. There is no exclusivity to Scotland here at all. If Scotland provided all the money which built the rigs then maybe they could claim it but as they didn't it's no more Scotland's oïl as the falklands are Argentina's.
     
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  18. The Mighty Thor

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    Swords, I don't care what the Scots do, not a jot and you do not have to read what people post so you have no right to ask me to keep my mouth closed. You keep your eyes closed, it might stop you throwing your dummy out of your pram. I do not see how the Scots going their own way bothers or hurts England at all. Exactly where is the absurdity in my post? You still haven't answered your sh*t claim yet.
     
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    <doh> Goodnight TMT
     
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  20. The Mighty Thor

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    Goodnight Spurf and doh to you too.
     
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