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Gascoigne and Newcastle

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Smug in Boots, Aug 22, 2014.

  1. Billy Death

    Billy Death Well-Known Member

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    Nee bother mate, I'll dee the Brum one, just mind me on, I'm a forgetful sod, lol.
     
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  2. its been fun thanks :)

    its been fun thanks :) ♬♬Badum-tish! ♬♬
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    addiction is like any other illness some people manage to get cured - some don't - certainly would hate to be in his shoes
     
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  3. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    I don't think you're ever fully 'cured' from alcoholism though are you? That's one of the things, it's like painkillers and heroine, you're always conforming to your discipline, the fight probably gets easier but it never dies completely.
     
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  4. Brian Storm

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    Thing is, it was pointless just sending him to rehab. His alcohol is a by-product of his mental illness, without treating his mental health problems rehab for alcohol abuse was always going to fail.

    Gazza is prime example of a lack of awareness to mental health problems in this country. How are the public supposed to have any empathy towards the subject when GPs don't even have clue about the subject. There are 1000s of Gazza's in this country getting either the wrong treatment of no treatment at all. These people who thought they were helping were always throwing money down the drain. The NHS have screwed Gazza big time.
     
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  5. Brian Storm

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    Will do fella, cheers.
     
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  6. SAFCDRUM

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    Not directly related to mental health but in my contacts with GP's and even experts/specialists at hospitals it beggers belief how many havnt got a f**king clue.
     
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  7. marcusblackcat

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    The rehab places I have connections with are heavily connected and also clued up in the mental illness side of things (through working for the NHS) - I don't know exactly where he went but I heard he was provided with the top assistance and threw it back in most people's faces. They would know a pisshead who just likes drinking from one who has issues which prevents them from giving it up. Particularly the ones who give it up simply so that they get through the course and so that they can simply get the tick in the box for the NHS. From my experience, Gazza acted very much like one of those and not like a mentally ill person - but I am no expert, I can only give my opinion. If it was me who'd done what he did, I'd be called a drain on society and most would want me dead instead of spending time and money to try to sort me out
     
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  8. Tel (they/them)

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    The fact that the brain is so complex serves as a great excuse for medical 'experts'.

    Also the fact that it is not physical and doesn't pose an immediate risk to live in most cases, means big pharma companies are happy to ignore developing treatments as it's not profitable.
     
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  9. Brian Storm

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    Maybe it take one to know one. That bloke is riddled with mental health problems, I can see it blatant as day myself.
     
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  10. Tel (they/them)

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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28900636

    Harry Redknapp offers Gazza an open invite to come and work with QPR... must say I don't have a lot of time for Harry Redknapp but he's gone up a bit in my estimations after that.
     
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  11. SAFCDRUM

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    Well, they do have one thing in common........................brown paper bags............................I.....am.......off...........................
     
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  12. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    <laugh> somebody always has to say these things, I'm just glad it didn't have to be me again.

    Where you living in Manchester mate?
     
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  13. SAFCDRUM

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    Used to live in sunny Cheshire with parents when I first moved down this way but now live on the east side (gangsta) in Gee Cross (non gangsta) which is substantially more affordable.
     
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  14. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    Cool, don't know much about that side of town to be honest.

    I've just moved to Cheadle, finding it a bit surreal how nice the people are compared to where I moved from (Prestwich) where everybody seemed angry all the time!
     
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  15. Smiffy

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    I just looked at the BBC news page and saw what appeared to be 2 related headlines - then after a few puzzled moments realised the second one was just my dyslexia:

    1. "Redknapp gives Gascoigne job offer"

    2. " Gaza: Suspected informants executed"
     
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  16. Smug in Boots

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    Yet the psychiatrists who examine him, when he's been sectioned, never keep him in or give him any treatment.

    I'll be honest I love to drink, ****ing love it.

    If I had unlimited time & money with no responsibilities and no need to work I'd probably drink every day.

    It's all very well blaming his friends, as well, but he shuns decent people and hangs around with drunken knobheads.
     
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  17. Smug in Boots

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    He knows it won't happen mate, easy to make gestures like that ....... I would be ****ing furious if he came to my club, wouldn't you?
     
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  18. Brian Storm

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    You've clearly haven't had to deal with the mental health side of the nhs have you mate? Yes mate they do it all the time. Get yourself down to the charity Mind to see it for yourself in abundance mate. Yes, a charity trying to give poorly people the services and therapies they are entitled to but are refused by the NHS. A flippant comment from you smug, I have to say. Maybe if it was somebody other than Gazza then you might not be so dismissive.


    And for the record, people who are sectioned are often released, and being released without a proper support plan is as common as a cold. Being sectioned doesn't mean throwing the key away, we're not Victorians, even if attitudes still are.
     
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  19. SAFCDRUM

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    I heard this week they want to rename Cheadle north wilmslow. That will put your house price up!! Ha ha
     
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  20. Tel (they/them)

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    I wouldn't want him anywhere near our youth team that's for sure.
     
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