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  1. cosicave

    cosicave Well-Known Member

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    Hahaha… Superb!
     
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  2. Max Whiplash

    Max Whiplash Well-Known Member

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    Yes, I agree, Renault.

    I can rep, apparently, so I did. But can anyone explain rep please? Why can or can't someone do it?
     
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  3. Sportydan

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    Sorry if people didnt pick this up, i didnt do this, i found it on a website.
     
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  4. Masanari

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    You can't rep people you have recently repped in order to stop serial repping. (That did not sound right)
     
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  5. genjigonzales

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    No - you posted it. I wasn't sure you'd created it but it didn't matter. <ok>
     
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  6. genjigonzales

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    Yeah, you can't rep just the people you love. You have to spread it around, like date repping.
     
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  7. Kyle?

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    Bruno Senna is a vastly overrated driver. Renault are better off with heidfeld.
     
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  8. Masanari

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    Why do you think that? I think he cannot really be rated yet because he has not had a proper chance but he might have some potential.
     
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  9. Kyle?

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    He had a shot in the hrt, and didn't keep it on the road. He reminded me of grosjean, spending more time facing the wrong way, or in the crash barriers, than actually racing. At least you know what you're getting with heidfeld. Or why don't they wait til next year, and put Bob Kubica back in the car when he recovers.
     
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  10. Masanari

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    HRT was not really a shot, he had 9 retirements from 18 starts but only 1 of them was driver error and that was in Barcelona where I think he surprised himself how well he started and got a little carried away, but 1 error in a rookie season in by far the worst car on the grid is very good, he is not a crasher.
     
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  11. Kyle?

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    I remember far more than 1 error. All last season i was thinking "there's no way this guy would be in F1 if he had a different surname." Seriously, if he was called Bruno Evans he would have been fired long before the end of the season.
     
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  12. Masanari

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    DNF 1. Mechanical
    DNF 2. Hydraulics
    DNF 3. Crashed
    DNF 4. Hydraulics
    DNF 5. Fuel pressure
    DNF 6. Gearbox
    DNF 7. Suspension failure
    DNF 8. Hydraulics
    DNF 9. Yellow flags did not come out quick enough and Senna could not get out of the way of Kobayashi crashed car.

    In GP2 Senna beat Maldonado, Petrov, Chandhok, Buemi, di Grassi, Grosjean, d'Ambrosio, and Kobayashi. He also would of got the 2009 Honda drive if Honda had not pulled out. He deserves a proper chance in F1 just to show if he has or has not got anything.
     
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  13. Julius Caesar

    Julius Caesar Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    People are way too quick to jump on the "only in F1 because of the name" bandwagon without bothering to look at Bruno's driving in any real detail. What did you expect him to do in that car last year?
     
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  14. Kyle?

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    If Mark Webber moves on, which may happen, then RBR should attempt to sign sauber's Kamui Kobayashi, instead of Lewis Hamilton. This works well for them on a number of grounds.

    1. It gives the Red Bull brand a foothold in the asian market, giving them more exposure,
    2. Kobayashi seems to be a quiet, well mannered driver, which helps keep the team harmonious.
    3. He lacks natural speed in relation to Vettel, making him a clear number 2 at Red Bull. Again, this keeps things in the team happy. However, he is a fast driver.
    4. He's already better than Mark Webber (in my opinion, you may disagree, you are allowed to), which means more consistent podium finishes.
    5. Him in a good car could bring some extra viewing in asia. Again, good for Red Bull commercially
    6. Because he's a poor qualifier, it'll be fun to see him scythe through the field every race. This brings in more viewers, and boosts the Red Bull Brand.

    There are some cons though
    1. He still lacks consistency. See Valencia as proof.
    2. He may be too quiet for a media hungry brand such as Red Bull. They currently have two outspoken (in a good way) drivers, always available for comment, a team boss who is media friendly etc. Maybe Kamui won't fit that template
    3. I'm not sure those overalls will suit him :emoticon-0100-smile

    More pro's than con's. If they sign Hamilton, i can see a massive punch up between the RBR drivers happening. Hamilton will accuse RBR of favouritism etc. and eventually, they'll take each other out of the race.

    Sorry for this being long. I just wanted to get my view across. Again, i don't mind if you disagree.
     
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  15. Kyle?

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    No miracles, for sure, but the car wasn't that bad. It was bad, but not as bad as you make it out to be.
     
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  16. Julius Caesar

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    It was pretty bad. Same spec for Monza and Monaco i think. He beat di Grassi on occasion but i dont think even the likes of Hamilton or Alonso would have got it further than Glock. What more could he have done?
     
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  17. Julius Caesar

    Julius Caesar Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Kobayashi has been very consistant this year. A points finish in all but 1 race, but he has not got enough qualifying pace for a big team. He is best off where he is now.
     
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  18. Kyle?

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    he's a nice bloke (like his team mate last year, Mr Chandhok) but i don't feel that he'll offer any improvement over heidfeld at renault. I may be wrong, but i didn't see enough ability from him last year. He didn't really impress me in GP2 either.
     
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  19. Kyle?

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    I agree that his qualifying has been poor, but his racecraft makes up for that. I'm willing to retract my comment about him lacking consistency, as i've just remembered the sauber was abysmal in europe. Perez only got 11th because he stopped once. Apologies Kamui.
     
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  20. Julius Caesar

    Julius Caesar Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    On Heidfeld maybe not (although its not an impressive comparison to petrov), but a seat in a smaller but decent team. Like Sauber, Force India or Williams is something i would like to see.
     
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