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Discussion in 'Manchester United' started by Matth_2014, Aug 12, 2014.

  1. Christiansmith

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    sauce? Matth twitter account...?
     
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    He's a good player and the right age and it's a position that you need a player in as he can play centre back or LB. He can be a bit rash and does get the odd red card but imo a good signing for you if it does complete.
     
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  4. Christiansmith

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    What we now need are 2 experienced CBs. A brand new defence...except for DeGea!!
     
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    Id take vidal now and be satisfied with our transfers.

    Ideally vidal, benatia and di maria.
     
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  6. Bodinki

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    Really?
    You would feel confident going into the season with those CB's as first choice?
    A CB or two is more important for you than a midfielder imo.
     
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    Sure would. It doesnt matter a jot how good or bad your defenders are if they are left exposed by a poor midfield.

    Take liverpool last season. Shambles of a defence. Then look at chelsea. Pretty poor defence on paper, protected by a good midfield
     
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  8. Bodinki

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    riiiiight......
     
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  9. UnitedinRed

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    So your saying liverpools defence was great last season. Gerrard as a dm helped with that i guess.

    Youre also saying chelseas defence was ****. No protection from a midfield....

    Because i was saying the opposite.

    Heres other clubs with poor defences...

    Real madrid
    Barcelona
    Bayern munich

    Compared with the rest of their squads, each lack a top class defence but what they do have is a top class midfield protecting them.

    Whar united lack is both. And it shows. Sort the midfield out and you sort the defence out.
     
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  10. Bodinki

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    No I agree with most of what you said.
    Just wondering how Chelsea's defence looks poor on paper? Doesn't really does it?
     
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    On paper it does (or did last season as thats what i ak referring too).

    None are what you would call world class defenders. However through good discipline and a well organised midfield they were a top class defensive unit.

    Which is my point about being happy if we signed vidal, or khedira or even, to a much lesser extent..... De jong.... Lol.

    A midfield general basically.
     
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    I'd be happy with Jones, Evans and Rojos as a back three, or Evans and Rojos as CBs in a 442. Would be better to have a more experienced CB to throw into the mix, but Evans is as good as Cahill, Lovren and Skrtel, and a way better than Demichelis so there's no point signing another CB unless it's a top class player who probably won't be available.

    Our defence was poor against Swansea as we were missing Evans, once he's back and we get a settled back two / three I think we'll be fine to push for top four. If Liverpool can challenge for the title with Skrtel and Sakho and Chelsea can be favourites with Terry and Cahill then we don't have that much to worry about imo, although it does leave us vulnerable to injuries if we're playing three at the back.
     
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    I get your point and you definitely need a midfielder with balls.
    But you could stick Makalele in front of your defence and you would still struggle.....its pretty bad mate.
     
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  14. UnitedinRed

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    Its not as bad as is being made out. Worse defences in the top 7 sides. Liverpools, spurs....

    All of them have looked great before. Jusr need time to settle.
     
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    It doesn't look poor, but it's very reliant on Terry. Without him to keep Cahill concentrating you are likely to ship a few, particularly now Gobley has moved on. Ivanovic is a good defender, but not good enough at marshalling the rest of the defence imo.

    It's got to be a bit of a worry - much like us when Vidic was out in 11/12, we looked solid at the back when Rio was there, but when he was missing we didn't have a leader who would keep the rest of the defence focused.
     
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  16. Bodinki

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    Its definitely something that needs addressing, but not immediately, Terry has a season or two left, but we do need a new head defender as it were.
    Hopefully we will bid for Hummels next summer or someone of that ilk,
     
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    He probably does, but then we thought the same with Vidic - all it took was one injury and everything changed. Still, one or two major injuries can knacker any title challenge, or any player, so that's always a risk.
     
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    Evans as good as Cahill? In what world? And I'm hardly Cahill's biggest fan.
     
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    Both solid defenders who are not defensive leaders but great partners for those who are.
     
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    To me it doesn't matter so much on the individual ability it's the partnership that matters at centre back, Terry and Cahill are a good example of this. It was Liverpools problem last season the individual defenders are good but they just don't work together.
     
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