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Tottenham in the Summer Transfer Window - 2014 Edition!

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  1. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Not undroppable but the signs are promising, would you not say? My initial thoughts were that Dier was going to be eased in, but he's clearly better than I (and I'd say most) have anticipated. A MOTM performance against a London Rival, on your Premier League debut, after being moved out of position is a sign of a very talented player in the making.
     
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  2. Boss

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    Promising. Yes. But it's worth remembering James Collins has scored goals and put in motm displays but he's ginger. I'm not suggesting Dier won't become a top player, just one game against Carlton Cole and he's already getting hyped up.
     
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  3. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    I think it's only natural to hype him, he's a young lad who even though is English, has been used to a foreign culture for the past 9 years. To put in the display he did against West Ham on his debut, while playing in two positions after going down to 10, I think it's admirable and deserves high praise and recognition. Even if it's only one game, he's shown he can handle the pressure of a big match, there are just as many youngsters who, when thrust into the big time fail to perform.

    We'll never truly know his potential if we bring in more CB's who'll make it harder for him to get minutes on the pitch.
     
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  4. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    Technically two - plenty of people were talking him up after the Schalke game on here.
     
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  5. The Huddlefro

    The Huddlefro Well-Known Member

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    Dier is far from undroppable, in fact the only person who was at Spurs last year was surely Lloris, and now we have Vorm even he isn't safe if he drops into poor form. But I see no point in dropping a young English player who is performing well, until he stops doing so. At the moment we have lots of competition, especially at CB, and at the start of the season we have plenty of games to keep players happy. Nobody at Spurs right now has a divine right to walk into the team and replace someone who is playing well IMO, least of all someone like Verts who was hardly a model pro at times last year. In the past few seasons you could have made arguments for Lloris, Modric and Bale having that right down to sheer ability relative to the rest of the squad, but not now.
     
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    Agreed, and for this reason i think Kane might get a start vs QPR
     
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  7. MightySpurs

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    Dier showed Kaboul up at the weekend. Far more composed and in control. Kaboul does not have the concentration levels to be a top class CB. His only good spell for us is when KING was his partner and he baby sat him every game.

    The mistakes Kaboul made against the spammers were embarrassing. He was the same all of last season.

    He must be sold.

    If we don't bring in another CB then our four CB's for this season should be Vert, Dier, Daws, Chiri. Fryers being loaned out.
     
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  8. totsfan

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    Agree about Kaboul,don't know about selling him,and i don't agree with loaning out Fryers as he can fill in at full back,with us being in the Europa league
     
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  9. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    No doubting that Kaboul hasn't been the same since returning from the long injury he got but the guy is a great centre back on his day, I think we'd regret selling him. Besides no CB last season done themselves any justice (Vlad was good but aerially very weak). If all our current CB's in our squad were on form, I'd say Kaboul is the best from a defensive aspect, though Vertonghen has more tools in his locker.
     
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  10. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member
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    The link with Depay has started up again, probably due to his apparent reluctance to commit to PSV and his two goals on the weekend.

    [video=youtube;MA2iD983Ses]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MA2iD983Ses[/video]

    [video=youtube;AsVK3Mkv580]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsVK3Mkv580[/video]

    Any suggestion that he heard the music on those clips and requested a move are unsubstantiated, so far. Wouldn't blame him, though.
    That is two different goals, by the way. Third and sixth in a 6-1 win.

    If we're not going to bring anyone else in during this window or make a significant spend, at least, then it might be an idea to buy him and loan him out.
    Either let him go back to Holland for a season or keep him relatively local and get him used to the Premier League, say with QPR or Palace, perhaps?
    It would cost a fair bit, but we haven't had a net spend for years and it would probably be a sensible investment.
     
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  11. redwhiteandermblue

    redwhiteandermblue Well-Known Member

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    The team's record with Dembele in it his first year was brilliant. He deserved to be undroppable that year. I think his problem may be a long term injury, incidentally.

    I get the feeling we're leaning towards going with younger players if they look ready: Dier, Bentaleb, Lamela, Eriksen, maybe Kane. It seems to be Pochettino's preference to work with players who are more malleable. It seems like a good idea in itself to get the team on one page playing a given system. The problem is that won't help us shift veterans.
     
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  12. Boss

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    Count down until the window is closed. Hopefully we can hang onto Chadli and Paulinho as clubs will be sniffing around.
     
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    according to the beeb gossip we are preparing a bid for united's Hernandez, and Fellani, hope they have the last bit wrong!
     
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    That was from Caught offside Tots. I think it's complete and utter b*llocks. I dont even think Hernandez is that great. Good sub but I wouldn't want him starting for us.
     
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  15. totsfan

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    Agree,i would rather have Remy or Bony
     
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  16. Roo

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    The question now is: Are his best days behind him?

    It's not like he's been almost as good. - Sadly, he's been frightening to watch at times. <yikes>
     
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  17. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    By rights he should be nearing his best years now seeing as he's 28. I think aerially he's still dominant but his concentration has been letting him down. I'm hoping that with a run of games he'll get back to his best, when he got back into the team last season he was in and out of it in periods so never had a full run of games which he'd ideally need after about 13 or 14 months out.
     
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  18. Roo

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    Is he better than what we have? Possibly. - Most of us don't have a clue if we're honest. It's hard to tell with foreign leagues and you can only go on what you see/ what the facts are.
    So here we go...
    Memphis Depay is only 20. He's scored 21 goals in 62 games, which is pretty damn good for a winger. Compare him to the 2 similar players we have, Lennon and Townsend.
    Lennon - 26 goals in 258 appearances. Average - 1 in 10 (roughly)
    Townsend - 1 goal in 31 appearances.

    Memphis Depay is 20, so he can be fairly compared to Townsend, although Depay has played twice as many games. It could be argued that Townsend has been all over the place on loan, so he's not really had chance to settle for long. Let's give him the benefit of the doubt, despite the fact Depay's goal ratio is far superior.

    Depay is now becoming a regular squad member of the Dutch team. A squad with a lot of talent.

    When was the last time Lennon was called up for England? - let's also bear in mind how s**t England are. Yet he still doesn't get a look in.

    Townsend however, is someone who is starting to regularly get called up.

    But I'm afraid with a goal ratio like Depay's, and a lethal freekick, i'd be taking a gamble on him. We need more goals like this from the midfielders/wingers.
     
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    It's a risk. As I said, he doesn't look like the same player. I guess if he doesn't get back to his best, we can do business in January.
     
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  20. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    I've mentioned Depay for about a year now, I remember asking for Cove's view on him last summer and he gave a positive review back then (I think! <laugh>).

    For me the lad is probably the MVP of the Eredivisie right now. I think some hyped him as the new Robben in his first season (for the right reasons - fast inside winger who scores, not the pussy who dives) and you can see why - though the new Robben title now sits with Zivkovic who joined Ajax in the Summer. The Prem is obviously a different kettle of fish and I doubt he'd replicate his goal scoring form to the same extent but I reckon he could get a good Prem side around 8-10 league goals a season once settled.

    If we somehow nab Depay (can't see it tbh) then one of Chadli/ Townsend/ Lennon would have to go. The obvious choice for many would be Chadli, though he too had an impressive goal scoring ratio in the Eredivisie and struggled in his first season here, luckily for Depay he has the pace aspect which helps any player out but there can always be a risk that he may struggle and not adapt immediately like Nacer (though Chadli wasn't as bad as many make out) and then be branded a flop and a terrible player by many of our encouraging Spurs fans.
     
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