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Under Pressure managers 2011/2012.

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by LuisDiazgamechanger, Jun 28, 2011.

  1. LuisDiazgamechanger

    LuisDiazgamechanger Dribbles

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    SAF has got nothing to prove even not winning anything in the coming season
    no one can force him out of Old Trafford.
    Other managers are under very great pressure.
    1.AndreVillas -Boas would be the most manager under pressure in the new season. Roman Abramovich is not a patient man, he needs in particular the European cup,
    and if he cannot get that he would like the premiership title at least.
    2.Arserne Wenger-Balancing the book or not balancing the book, profit or no
    profit Arsenal fans want trophies.If Arsenal fails to win anything in the coming season
    the future of Arsene Wenger cannot be guaranteed.
    3.Roberto Mancini- Because of the investment the owner would not be happy
    for city not to win anything or not in the top four at the end of the season.
    4.Kenny Dalglish-I would like to think that the honeymoon is over,because he is being
    supported to buy players of his choice a top four finish is the minimum expected of Liverpool.
    5.Harry Redknapp-Because Tottenham had tasted champion league last season, the
    supporters are not happy if they are not playing champion league four two seasons.
    Where is the axe going to fall.?:emoticon-0108-speec
     
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  2. Salah's-left-foot

    Salah's-left-foot Well-Known Member

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    I can see Villa-Boas challenging for honours but falling short. Wenger possibly being sacked and being replaced with Pep Guardiola. Mancini will be interesting, but as long as he comes close to winning things, he should be kept on as Man City manager. King Kenny will look to secure a top four spot, something that isn't impossible as the top four seem more vulnerable than ever. 'arry will probably once again fall short of the top four, but come the end of the season, he'll leave for the England job.
     
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  3. Bozz

    Bozz Well-Known Member

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    I was going to post something similar to this last night. Reson being, I went on to sky bet and Kenny Dalglish had the longest odds on being the first manager sacked this season (50/1). I trhink this shows that Kenny is showing he can easily handle the pressure that cmoes with being Liverpool manager and that the press (Sky Press as well!!!) have as much confidence in him as we do
     
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  4. Lucaaas

    Lucaaas Well-Known Member

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    Steve Kean, Neil Warnock and McLeish.
     
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  5. Ze

    Ze Well-Known Member

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    Redknapp is the most likely to falter in my opinion, he's got a pretty good squad but he's not a top class manager and let's face it - Spurs aren't a top class side, they don't have the tradition behind them and they don't seem to be funded anymore so I can see a sort of "Rafa type" slip down the table as they have to sell to buy. Personally I don't rate many of their players and think they're all pretty much second class, but Modric and VDV have kept the team together and working well, and Harry's tactics have worked well for the team but I don't think he has the capability of adapting to the situation when things start to go wrong.

    Wenger has the pressure piled on his shoulders depending on whether he buys anyone this summer. He needs to splash the cash big time, he can't keep relying on his young talent to pull through.

    Mancini has so much money to spend, but doesn't know who or what to spend it on. If he spends a decent amount on certain positions then the team could be champions next season, if not then I can see Mancini getting the axe.
     
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  6. Muppetfinder General

    Muppetfinder General Well-Known Member

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    I have a suspicion Abramovich is finally learning. He's had the money not to care so far but as Rickie lee Jones said, "Ain't no man who got the money in his hand who got into that bread by being slow in the head." Certainly the Chavs are getting fed up of losing managers without any sign of Old Big Ears. Given that Villas-Boas is good with younger players and there's been a shift of emphasis at Chelsea I think he'll get his three years to win the CL without any expectation until then. I think Roman has told him to build a new team long-term.

    I have no logical reason to think this. It's just a gut feeling and I haven't even had breakfast yet.
     
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  7. Bozz

    Bozz Well-Known Member

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    The problem with Spurs is they never had a player that could walk in to a top team. Liverpool, Chelsea, Utd and Arsenal (as do city now) all have that and because of that we can build around those players due to their repuation.

    who many players have ever said "I have joined Tottenham Hotspur to play with the likes of Gareth Bale, Luka Modric or Tom Huddlestone" now think of the big stars the traditional top 4 have had... Even Liverpool now still have Steven Gerrard & Pepe Reina who are not only great players but great players with a reputation.

    And then there is the manager, outside of England who actually knows of Harry Redknapp?? I know the same can be said about Kenny Dalglish due to his time out of the game but it would never have been said about Rafa Benitez... at least if a player googles Kenny Dalglish they get a distinguished playing career and top flight titles. Spurs are a classic example of a side who decided to take on the big kids and while they shocked everyone to begin with, they are now being shown for what they are... medicore.

    Proof of this is that on the back of a massive money spinning champions league adventure your manager is looking to sell to buy to enhance his squad while the clubs around him can afford to just buy
     
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  8. Bozz

    Bozz Well-Known Member

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    Or it might be because he's just flavour of the month... Avram Grant only got the job because he was bezzies with Roman
     
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  9. Flappy Flanagan (JK)

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    I agree with who said Steve Kean at Blackburn. Tbh I'm surprised he is still there. I think they could be in huge danger next season.

    I don't know how patient QPR's rich men will be with Neil Warnock either, but I think he will be safe for this season.

    Alan Pardew is the name I'll bring forward though. After the harsh treatment of Chris Houghton and strong mistrust rebuilding between the board and coaching team at Newcastle, they are walking a dangerous line. Especially if they don't get to replace Andy Carroll decently.
     
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  10. Bozz

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    I thought Pards & Ashley got on well?? - Pards managed to win the fans over and is the right guy for the job imo, I'd like to see them lift the league cup next season or at least qualify for the europa one way or another.

    Steve Kean is pants, how he manged to take a comfortable mid table blackburn to the brink of relegation is worse then what Hodgson did when he was at Ewood park.

    RE: QPR, didn't Vijay Mallya walk away from the club?? I thought Bernie Ecclestone was the sole owner - I may be wrong on that though :/
     
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  11. luvgonzo

    luvgonzo Pisshead

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    We are always patient with managers sometimes too patient Kenny has plenty of time.
     
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  12. KingPepeReina.

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    Possibly the only two managers not under pressure in last seasons top 6 are both King Kenny and Baconface.Baconface has nothing to prove.He's been there,seen it done it.Even if he finishes second and as expected doesn't win the CL.He'll be fine,He'll just re-group and re-organise.Kenny is under no pressure.He'll just have to improve on the previous season.I reckon he will.He's under no pressure,but the players however are under intense pressure.They do not have any excuses.There is no more troublesome owners,no more in-fighting amongst owners.Its now a tight run ship,all parties fighting the same battle.So there can be no excuses.The owners have done their bit,they've stumped up the cash for potential signings,
    they have insisted that it be spent.They do want any players that aren't in Kenny's plans moved on to decrease the wage bill.They and its the same in all walks of life,they don't want to be paying people for doing nothing.There is nothing wrong with that.
    As for Man City,their expectations have risen,their owners expectations have risen,top three and the FA Cup for their enormous investment has wetted the appetite.They want that standard to continue if not bettered.If it isn't expect Mancini to be given the push.
    Villa Boas is under extreme pressure,He's bossed by the most impatient owner in possibly Europe.He makes ''Deadly Doug'' look nice.7 managers in 7 years tells a story.Roman wants the CL,if he doesn't get it,Villa Boas will be out of a job and Chelsea will be looking for yet another manager.
    Arsene Wenger will have to win something,if he doesn't the emirates faithful will demand that he be removed.It will be 7 years without silverware.
    Redknapp.He fluked his way into the champions league.Spurs fans now think they should be there every year.They shouldn't and won't be.Their standard is top 6 due to the quality of players they have and the size of their club.The only way they can get back in is if their owners invest heavily and appoint a top class manager,something that Redknapp who won 1 trophy in 30 years of management clearly isn't.
     
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  13. saintanton

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    Arsenal have been patient with an underachieving manager for some time now- I wonder whether that patience will run out?

    Chelsea- I'm not sure about the General's guts. Money making skills and tolerance and understanding don't necessarily go hand in hand imo. Roman would be nuts not to give AVB a chance, but I think he's one yacht short of a fleet anyway so who knows?

    Mancini will be under pressure if his team don't hit the ground running.

    I hope our new owners understand the Liverpool way of giving time to the manager.
    Woy didn't get much, but he was a special case. I'd have given him a piggy-back to Lime Street myself after ten games.

    Fergie? Couldn't shift him with a hand grenade.

    Don't know about Flash 'Arry. I think it's only a few of Spurs more vocal fans who expect that much of him. The hallucinogenic effect of a year in the CL has made them think they're suddenly one of the big boys. I think the more pragmatic members of their board will probably be happy to keep him on 'til he leaves to (further) screw up the national team.

    Anyone lower than this I don't really care about- apart from hating Neil Warnock, obviously.
     
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  14. Chris.

    Chris. #bringbackchris

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    I'll put a couple of names in who are lower down the league:

    Steve Bruce- Sunderland have has a mid-season collapse two seasons running and I would suspect the owner at Sunderland won't have that happening three seasons running.

    Steve Kean- A couple of people have said this and they are on the money. Venky's don't have a clue. I know some people don't like Big Sam but he would have kept them up no problem.

    Mick McCarthy- It's an outside bet but the owner seems to be giving him the funds (O'Hara, Fletch, Doyle etc.) and if he doesn't improve their league position, he could be under some pressure.

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  15. BringBackfootie

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    The new Chelsea coach is meant to be a very good man manager. He'll get them firing, in team talks with Ancelotti I would have been looking at his eyebrow and not hearing a pidgeon word:)
     
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    Don't know how he does it <laugh>
     
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  17. MUFCOK

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    I think the City owners will expect the League or Champions League this season. If Mancini fails to deliver, which I think he will, then he will be out of the door come May. If he looks like he is going to falter early on (which I think he will in Europe) then he will need to keep up the pace in the League. Very interested to see how City and find the balance the big clubs have and need when you have a game every 3 days and you need to use your best possible 11 everytime. Mancini managed it at Inter in the League, though it was a poor league but he struggled in Europe.
     
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  18. BringBackfootie

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    it would be foolish, especially after lookin at what Chelsea did, for them to expect to win it. They are branding City as it were with starts and highly watched CL football. if they reach the quaters in an exciting manner and come near to the prem, he will be quite safe. City fans will like spurs this season gone have the time of their lives being in the CL, I fkn miss those nights of big games:(

    If he can keep city in it till the end this year and do well in the CL thats great progress that Spurs failed to make, did well in CL but failed in prem, if City can handle both next season, then tey will be a threat in the league too, for me consistency is the key for them, having that they could be troublesome for the others indeed, they gave united a difficult time in both games if I remember, tey beat us 3 0 and we hammered em back 3 0. I think they will be realistic and want progress, I don't think he can afford a lower league place than last year compared to a bad run in the CL, that will inspire more players arriving but I recon the owners think he has enough in the team for them to compete for the league right till the end
     
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  19. KingPepeReina.

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    The key for them is Tevez and it seems likely they are keeping him.Neither Balotelli or Dzeko are what you call prolific.Balotelli is a moron and Dzeko is a donkey.
    I still don't think under Mancini they will win the league,as he's not a top class manager.In fact City are poorly managed.They have a squad which is light-years ahead of the rest and was heavily invested in.Yet they finished 3rd.I think a lot of people would have expected more.There doesn't seem to be much cohesion.Good management,and not having 25 expensive players is what brings success,team-work,togetherness and cohesion is what brings success.
     
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  20. Molby...The Pass Master

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    First one out the door..Steve Bruce..awful end to the season..awful manager, hiding behing his friendship with alky ferretson
     
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