Yeah mate, you keep bringing up a thing he had to do in his first month into the job as some irrefutable evidence that he is a rubbish coach. All it showed to me? he was and is happy to talk any old ****e to any camera thrust in his face. How many years doing well disproves you Tobes? I mean I get the feeling that to our owners they'll be happy with 3 or 4 years top 4 (as will I if we are eventually as a team challenging for the title if not winning it) before actually winning it becomes the minimum. I think last year was a slight over jump in an upward trend. I mean you seemed proud and happy with Moyes and now Martinez staying around 5th with your lot why because that's what you believe is the best within your limitations yes?. So believing what everyone tells us just for the moment that City, Chelsea and United are bigger with endlessly more money and appeal than us: would Rodgers be a success if he keeps us hanging around 4th, I mean in your eyes since you're not deluded like us and know our real place in the scheme of things that's realistically the best anyone could do with us right? If not Tobes, lay out what in your opinion Brendan has to do and for how long to be seen as a success in YOUR eyes?
There's always a standout in the best teams, even if they are all playing great. Its usually the one scoring the goals but it can be the playmaker too in teams where there is no main goal scorer, or defender in teams that play very defensive football. I expect this year for liverpool if will be one of either Sterling, Sturridge or Ford.
His first season we simply didn't have the players he neede for the system, clear to see. Last season we played incredible, fast football, that is a different version of tika taka, to pass with the intent to attack basically.
why the **** is everyone wasting their time justifying our manager to tobes? as pointless as a sensible conversation or a grown up one at least with uir. those 2 troll this board every ****ing day, and any positive spin on our club you can guarantee those 2 will have an opinion!
Sterling and Coutinho will be our outstanding players this season - at their age too, the world is their oyster.
*yawn* So very shortly must mean this season? Starting from now you can't judge him on anything less, and anything more cannot possibly be considerd very short.
I think perosnally the article is abit silly given elevation of players to supposed world class level. nobody at anfield is world class, nobody is close to world class... we've players of potential and soem very good ones too. but thats just bandying about a term that's too easy. As for rodgers? One season cannot make a reputation, anyone can have one good season, alan pardew and roberto martinez... prove that... its repreating it is the challenge.
Not sure what's do wrong about wanting our striker to up his game to the next level. At the moment he's a level 3 striker. 1 are players like Messi, Suarez, then next level are the agueros and rvps and Sturridge is currently 1 down from that. If, and I said if, he continues to improve and can become that consistent goal scorer then no reason he can't be judged alongside platers if that quality. He's 24 and scored more in a season than RVP had managed at that age in England. No reason why in 2 or 3 years he can't be the same level. Unless you're saying oh dear because you already think he's that level?
Since the moment Sturridge signed from us he's outscored RVP and Aguero. How long you decide to go on reputation rather than reality is a personal choice though. As an aside, it's interesting that Sturridge invokes panic about the potential to miss games due to injury, yet when RVP and Aguero actually do miss half a season injured they only seem to improve in some people's estimation.
I suspect its not just the expectation of Studge to improve to such a level (I agree, can't see it but why not?) but about putting Suarez at a higher level than Aguero and RvP. The two that questioned it are Man Utd and Everton fans, hardly likely to agree are they? (although I don't see why not since Suarez no longer plays for us)
Surely nobody could argue against Luis being in a league of his own last season......he was sensational
He's spent well over £200m mate ffs, stop trying to portray yourselves as some sort of pauper at the grand table, as it's ridiculous. As for MY OPINION on Rodgers. I've said from the off I think he's full of ****, I said last season I thought he got lucky and I stand by that. What would he have to do to make me eat those words and concede that I was wrong about him? I think if he manages to keep you challenging for the title and makes you a top 4 stick on this season, then post Suarez I'll have to give the fella some credit for that achievement.
Why can't you give him credit already? A few maybe but you don't get lucky for thirty-eight games so surely you can appreciate (in a footballing sense) what he's done already? I'm not saying you have to accept he is a world beater, especially since he isn't (yet ), but most can see how well he's already done so a bit of credit wouldn't be too hard to admit would it?
