Ignore him lad, he's either trolling or he's genuinely clueless on the entire issue. Anyone who can excuse the actions of the Israelis in Gaza, is a waste of oxygen. FAO Lucas - not touched a drop lad, just riled by your spectacular ignorance.
That isn't what I'm saying. You've spectacularly missed the point here. I was talking about the 1 building in the video in particular.
To be honest now I see exactly what Dirtyfrank was saying last month. I disagreed with him then but I can definitely see his point much clearer now
Of course not, you just decided to make some pedantic point about that one building in the clip, whilst ignoring the total point of his post, not excusing anything, lol. You've then followed that up by chucking around tasteless comments about alcoholism. Class act you. Get back under your rock, pond life.
Why not DR, everything that can be said has been said on this subject, Sisu is simply spamming with the same material or even if I'm nice it's just a new "article" on the same topic with the same conclusion reached before the article was even written. Anything that is posted that doesn't agree completely is shouted down as being apologist. So the repetitive pattern is: Spam, spam, spam someone tries to discuss a specific point and is dismissed as a sheep or pro Israeli by S or Tobes.....then Sisu posts some really bat**** crazy stuff and Tobes backs off for a bit as he realises he may look just as mental by association..Spam spam spam..Sisu has a conversation with himself until someone else spots a specific thing they want to talk about and then gets abused......and cycle repeats. It was interesting to see how long s would in effect talk to himself but even that's got dull as obviously someone who hears voices isn't just talking to themselves and can go on endlessly....... I suppose the thread works as a virtual padded cell and is therefore useful .....
Fair enough Frank I dont know too much about it to get involved really and argue a point but its been interesting seeing things that have been posted which is why Organic Red and I asked for it to be reopened
Ach aye, I'm not that bothered about closing it, it's really my own lack of self control by keeping coming in and looking at the thread when I really should know better....it's like self harming lol......
Lol, self harming is okay to soe extent, like keep rubbing or biting the sore spot in your mouth. (im sure/hoping its not just me who does that) Ive just lurked reading and learning abbout it as like I say I dont know enough to argue a valid point if anyone disagreed, esp against you lot!
Frank I have provided a hell of a lot of information, sources and accounts from people in Israel, former idf, political analysts and footage of the reality BBC will not show, and you are again making blanket statements about me spamming. yes I am very active and often I make several posts consecutively, because I really give a s**t because this has been going on since before I was born and on a personal level I have met people, both Israeli and Palestinian who have educated me at length as to what it is like for Palestinians in Israel and in Gaza and the West bank You keep referring to me and you have ignored a serious amount of stuff on this subject on this thread and not bothered discussing that. Dave also uses the same tiresome ploy, referring simply to my "videos of other people's opinion" who just happen to have either studied this for 20 years or served in the IDF or spent a time in Palestine. Journalists, political analysts scholars and writers, all respected. it has created a lot of debate, and hopefully given people who have bothered to read some of it a better picture of what it is like to be Palestinian under the yoke of oppression and racism. Now, if you wish to address anything I posted I am more than happy to discuss THAT rather than discussing YOU or I any further. And please stop referring to me in other posts, if you have something to say to me, just say it, or keep schtum lad. Seriously. I do suspect your motives because you insinuated I was either antisemitic or something similar with your "political leanings" comments which I thought we'd put behind us, this whole thread does not have one shred of antisemitism from me or I think from anyone else for that matter. Alas, discussing you, or I is far less important than the topic. One that has been deleted from history by the media for decades. I have occasionally veered off of the direct topic and elaborated on related topics like media and agenda, it is not spam
To be fair though DR, sharing info to be read, is hardly Spam I think you'd agree, yes all of it is not info, sometimes I post some of the other stuff like what individuals with an audience in the US or Australia might come out with but it is relative in the wider context of lying to the public about what is really happening. Which is the essence of what I am doing on this thread as well as discussing. was wondering why it was reopened. I asked but got ignored by the mod. It was requested closed out of spite at me imo.
I've got to support sisu on this one, as he's posted some really powerful stuff and obviously has a passion for this issue and I respect him for that, as I feel the same way. I'm the first to take the piss out of some of the tin foil hat stuff on other issues, but on this subject most of what's being said is close to the facts of the matter imo. Good on sisu for championing the cause here.
It serves no one to ignore the message because you don't like the messenger, and this is a part of how propaganda works, vilify the messenger and make invalid the message. This is all too true when trying to stunt accurate reports and information that the media does not want people to believe, like calling a certain individual antisemitic so as to taint anything they might say.
Thanks Tobes, I think this topic is most deserving of it, regardless of, as you say, my other subjects, I try not get bogged down in theory, in this one, I wish to avoid it so as not to dilute the issue and initiate illegitimate arguments on this debate that take away from the core arguments that matter. The media have been doing this for so long, avoiding the salient points
A new 72 hour ceasefire has been agreed, this time without any pre conditions apart from ceasing hostilities. The widespread condemnation has certainly helped achieve this as well as I am sure primarily the work of mediators, though if Egypt are involved, I give them no credit with that eel Blair advising Sisi. Egypt has also contributed to Palestinian suffering Hopefully this is the beginning of the end of this atrocious affair though history shows that this is most likely not the case. Fatah are the real hope for Palestine, and absolutely not the Palestinian authority or Hamas only.. Israel has repeatedly violated ceasefire agreements. 2009 agreement broken, they carried out airstrikes and continued the blockage they agreed to stop, on food supplies. 2012 agreement broken, we know what happened a few months ago, the unity agreement kicked up a hornets nest in Tel Aviv One can remain hopeful though. FREE PALESTINE!
No Sisu I dont thinnk you have been spamming and I think you have posted some int things but Frank is entitled to his opinion like everyone ! As for the closure I thought Biscan closed it as you said Mods can close it at anytime. So dont know really
I thought so too, but I was told I was not the one it was closed for, I know who it was and I am pretty sure why, but it matters not, it is open Cheers to you and Red, I was blanked. Yes he is entitled to his opinion, as long as it isn't constantly opinions of me
