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Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by C19RK73, Jul 30, 2014.

  1. sanddancersoftheworlduniteandtakeover

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    Nobody is defending the actions of Hamas. But one of the major problems with Hamas is that the worlds policemen, who should be keeping the Israeli's (Jews) in check aren't doing their jobs and thus the violence escalates.
     
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  2. Rick O'Shea

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    So its not Israel but the Jews, yet it is Hamas not the Muslims?

    Honestly, I despair.
     
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  3. sanddancersoftheworlduniteandtakeover

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    Where did i say that? What I despair about is that people have the view that Muslims are all evil and the Jews are not. Islam is racist and Zionism isn't?

    If you were a Palestinian (Muslim) being continually ordered by gunpoint off your land to make way for Isreali (Jewish) settlers then i'm sure you'd feel more then pissed off.
     
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  4. Rick O'Shea

    Rick O'Shea Well-Known Member

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    In the previous comment.

    So its that one sided is it?
     
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  5. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    I should have known there'd be an anti-American undertone to your opinion, you've got some serious issues with that lot fella (please I don't need to know why).

    I have no idea why you keep referring to Israel as Jews, it's like calling the UK 'Christians'. The arab population of Israel represents a massive proportion of Israel in comparison to what the arab population of the UK represents, no matter how the facts are manipulated.

    This war is a massive case of underdog syndrome, I'm sick of having to 'feel sorry' for the underdog. If Hamas had an army of 500,000 they'd still ****ing lose this war, they refuse to be educated and they have poor, nay pathetic resources... If I applied educated common sense to that, I would not pick a fight with one of the most technically advanced units on the planet.

    The deaths of these civilians is the fault of Hamas, it is in Israel's best interests to defend itself at all costs, had they not needed to defend themselves there would be no casualties.
     
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    Don't forget about what the Muslims are doing to the Christians in Nigeria, Syria, Afghanistan, Somalia.


    Best to ssshhhhhh though guys
     
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  7. sanddancersoftheworlduniteandtakeover

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    And who's defending them?

    So, can i take it that by your reckoning it's OK for the Israeli Jews to wipe out the Muslim Palestinian population because Muslims in some other part of the world are killing Christians?
     
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  8. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    Can we take it from your reckoning that it's OK for Boko Haram to kidnap and terrorise little schoolgirls, considering you've made a massive deal out of 'The Jews' bombing Gaza, yet have barely acknowledged any other atrocity?

    Your issue is because Israel are seen as an American ally, I reckon.
     
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  9. sanddancersoftheworlduniteandtakeover

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    I'm amazed to know which side you would have been on when the Zionists (Jewish!) were raging a guerrilla war against the British in Palestine in 1946? Don't kid yourself into believing that the Jews are constant historical victims. I'm amazed at why people on here believe the Americans can do no wrong! Beggers belief.
     
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  10. sanddancersoftheworlduniteandtakeover

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    Where did i say anything to support Boko Haram?

    My issue has nothing to do with America but more the fact that the US is allowing Israel to do a spot of ethnic cleansing. Then again the US has supported a few regimes in the past that were fond of a bit of ethnic cleansing. Par for the course.

    What other atrocities are we discussing on this thread which i am Omitting?
     
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  11. Rick O'Shea

    Rick O'Shea Well-Known Member

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    Its not about taking sides, its all tit for tat. Peoples defence of Palestine is totally skewed.
     
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  12. sanddancersoftheworlduniteandtakeover

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    Had the Zionists (Jews) not bombed and terrorised the creation of Israel it could have all been different. The British may have been able to create a more peaceful middle east. We'll never know.
     
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  13. Rick O'Shea

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    There we go again, tit for tat.
     
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  14. Blunham Mackem

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    Yeh, coz the British had a great history in walking away and leaving peace and happiness behind...
     
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  15. sanddancersoftheworlduniteandtakeover

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    Unfortunately, that's the way it goes until both sides sit round a table and work things out. It took how many years in Ireland until Mo and her mob sorted it? Luckily the world now has Tony Blair as a middle east peace envoy! ;)
     
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  16. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    Mate, you question somebody else's motives for supporting Israel but when your motives are challenged by the exact same method you ask for literary proof. You can't persecute somebody for having an opinion because it doesn't conform to your ideal, you inferred that 83 had warped logic but when I applied the same warped logic to your opinion you instantly defended yourself and demanded proof. This has nothing to do with Boko Haram, but you haven't voiced your concerns for those kidnap victims as often as you have voiced your concerns over the Gazan victims. Why are you determining where the line is in the sand for where others with differentiating opinions can form an opinion over this? The world is a ****ing hell-hole and this is one example of a ****ed up crisis zone, it is never going to be facts vs lies, there's a tangled web of lies and facts that nobody can pick apart.

    The Americans are probably happy for Israel to target Islamic terrorists yes, so am ****ing I. I have said it enough times, I care not for the collateral as I don't believe they share a logical and equal value of human life as I would expect from a civilised religion, the region refuse to be educated and are born, indoctrinated and developed to fear god, a recipe for war, proven time and time again.

    As for your earlier question, I'd have been on the side of the British, that's where my allegiance lies and after that I couldn't care too much, I thought I'd made that perfectly clear. If you're suggesting I'm pro-Jewish you're putting words in my mouth, please don't bother.
     
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  17. sanddancersoftheworlduniteandtakeover

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    Hi, I was under the impression that this thread was regarding the situation in Israel/Palestine. If you ask me my thoughts on Boko Haram i'll happily give them. But don't assume that I am pro or anti anything without first reading that I am.

    My opinion on this matter is well documented. The American have done nothing but stir up a hornets nest of **** in the middle east for decades. As i've said before the USA never ****s in their own back yard wherever they are in the world. The Americans are trigger happy idiots. (you can quote me on that) ;)

    As for assuming that I think that you are pro-Jewish (oops! Isreali) then you couldn't be further away. Unlike others I base my opinions on what I read/hear and see and usually take both sides into consideration.
     
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  18. Sidthemackem

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    **** me. Can we not just agree that the Israelis bombing innocent men, women and children is utterly wrong? Just like Hamas using human shields is wrong. Being the victim of ****ish behaviour does not absolve you of being a **** yourself.
     
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  19. Rick O'Shea

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    Yea but they started it.
     
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  20. Tel (they/them)

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    Let's leave it there then, no harm done.

    American soldiers have literally saved the lives of my friends in combat, hell will freeze over before me and you share an opinion on the Yanks mate. :emoticon-0150-hands
     
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