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Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by C19RK73, Jul 30, 2014.

  1. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    Too many blind eyes being turned in the world mate, what's the Sudanese refugee figure at now? What's happened to the girls that Boko Haram kidnapped? I'll be damned if I'm gonna start making any of it my business because all of a sudden the Islamic community are taking a beating. I repeat, the whole region is awash with god-fearing people who refuse to be educated, I'm simply not going to make it my business until they start to respect each other like human beings and not animals.

    By quality do you mean awful? Joey Barton is a ****ing idiot, it's about time somebody put that greasy little bog rat to sleep.
     
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  2. sanddancersoftheworlduniteandtakeover

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    Indeed awful. I usually think that Barton's a grade 'a' idiot but in this case I think he has a point.

    Israel has a right to defend itself but is going too far. It's becoming more and more like ethnic cleansing that is being supported by the West. If the shoe were on the other foot the US and UN wold be clamoring to setup a war crimes commission. Just because the Jews got **** on over 50 years ago gives them no right to behave in such a way.
     
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  3. grandpops

    grandpops Well-Known Member

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    That`s what Islam is all about.

    Qur’an:9:5 - “Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.”

    Qur’an:9:112 “The Believers fight in Allah’s Cause, they slay and are slain, kill and are killed.”

    Qur’an:9:29 “Fight those who do not believe until they all surrender, paying the protective tax in submission.”

    Qur’an:8:39 “Fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah.”

    A dhimmi is a non-muslim who accepts a drastically-lowered status in muslim society in return for being allowed to live. A dhimmi must pay a special tax the "jizya", a kind of protection fee for non-muslims, that is above and beyond the normal fees and taxes owed by citizens in an islamic society. Dhimmis are not permitted to own weapons, hold political office, or talk back to muslims.
     
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  4. sanddancersoftheworlduniteandtakeover

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    I wonder how the Jews treat the Gentiles in Israel? how many non Jewish in the Israeli Parliament or the IDF?

    Let's look at Israel...occupying land, building walls around non Jewish, ethnic cleansing of neighbors... It could almost be the Germans in Warsaw in 1941.

    All religion have extremists, Christianity was murdering people for 100's of years in the name of the Bible and still is.
     
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    When Hitler sent rockets into the UK Britain responded by bombing Dresden almost out of existence women and children in their thousands, I choose not to sit in judgement of a country that is being invaded as at the time I cheered when I heard of it

    " Let he that is without sin throw the first stone "
     
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    Israel have now pulled it's troops out. Any chance they can now take care of Syria and Iraq?
     
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  7. sanddancersoftheworlduniteandtakeover

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    It's not a case of being without sin but a case of responding using rules that the international community have set up and have to abide by.

    The indiscriminate bombing of schools and hospitals in response is a war crime. nothing else! To use Dresden as an example to defend the Jews skirts over the facts. The Jews have illegally occupied Palestine, through force (as the Germans would have done the UK iduring WW2), the Palestinians (like the British) are using force to defend themselves from such threats. Unfortunately, unlike the British the Palestinians are being systematically wiped out by a much superior armed neighbour.

    The only way to sort out this mess is for the international community to force the US to make Israel give the land back to the Palestinians and to start some sort of dialogue to bring some sort of peace to the area. I'm not holding my breath.
     
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  8. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    There's 18% Muslim population in Israel mate, many of whom are part of the Israeli army fighting against Hamas.

    The Jewish reference is not necessary. The Muslims of Hamas are attempting to 'cleanse the Jews of Israel' the Israeli's are defending their land at all costs, no matter what the collateral is.

    The deaths of women and children happen in every Muslim country at the hands of Muslims, for honour, pride, rape... why is it different because they're victims of Israel's method to defend themselves?

    Joey Barton knows nothing about the situation, he's looking to score points in a game he has no idea how to play.
     
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  9. Rick O'Shea

    Rick O'Shea Well-Known Member

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    But its not indiscriminate bombing of schools etc.
     
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  10. Rick O'Shea

    Rick O'Shea Well-Known Member

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    Story of his life.
     
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  12. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    Can you stop saying "The Jews" mate, sort your facts out cos you're just looking anti-Semitic.
     
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  13. Rick O'Shea

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    They are Jews! If I was calling them Yids then fair enough. If you want to explain what you mean by the above then go ahead.
     
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  15. Rick O'Shea

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    Only 75% of the pop^ is Jewish.
     
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  16. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    Israel is not solely occupied by Jewish people mate, this is not Jews vs Muslims, this is Israel vs Hamas.

    Technically Yids refers to Ashkanazi Jews as well, the ones from Europe, who speak Yiddish. The Israeli Jews are Saphardi and speak Hebrew. <ok>
     
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    These are shocking and unacceptable in a modern civilised society, and the sad thing is that the bible has unacceptable passages in as well. Organised religion is at the heart of nearly all of the present day conflicts, but that is not to say that there are also millions of well meaning people who follow these religions..
     
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    Just had a quick look and found a few references to gentile magistrates so it seems non-jews are allowed to hold positions/offices. There`s plenty of people through traffic so if there there was `minority oppression` I expect we`d have heard about it. It`s not exactly a N Korea closed shop.
     
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  19. sanddancersoftheworlduniteandtakeover

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    Granted, but the mass perpetrators of the violence against the Palestinians are Jewish (by religion/ethnic group)

    fact....there are only approx. 400 (out of a force of approx 176,000) Non Jews serving on the front line in the IDF out of a population 8,000,000 Israelis! http://www.ujia.org/resources/non-jews-in-the-idf/

    fact....the 31 members of the current Israeli government cabinet are all Jewish. Including the Prime minister and Minister of Defence.

    The fact being that the Holocaust is always blamed on the Nazi's but other's who aided the Nazi's are almost always forgotten or quick to defend themselves against such accusations.

    For allegedly being such an alleged anti-semite my current reading material is a book by Jan T Gross called Neighbours about the pogroms in Poland which helped lead to the mass exodus of Jews from post war Europe and the establishment of Israel. The Poles tend to deny the fact.

    Indeed there are 2 million people are non Jewish (25%) and not 1 Non Jewish person makes it into the Jewish Cabinet. Very open.
     
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  20. Rick O'Shea

    Rick O'Shea Well-Known Member

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    What about the mass perpetrators against the Israelis? Why leave their religion out. :headbang:
     
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