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OT Gaza, the Algerian donation and the closed thread

Discussion in 'The Premier League' started by Jeremy Hillary Boob, Jul 14, 2014.

  1. Germlands Nozzer

    Germlands Nozzer Well-Known Member

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    The text in the German poster says "builds youth hostels and homes" (not sure if they're referring to the money or the girl...). So not supporting the troops, at least not directly.

    I'm guessing the point was to compare Israel to Nazi Germany, but it's propaganda - admittedly I haven't looked, but I'm going to take a wild guess that you could find similar posters for the UK, USA, Russia and various other countries, so it's somewhat spurious. How old is that Israel poster btw? It looks pretty ancient (not that that means anything).

    Judging by the big lion, good to see that the Israeli girl is at least a reggae fan...
     
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  2. Tobes

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    The answer was provided to you yesterday in the form of a map of the area, and the systematic land grab and ethnic cleansing that's gone on in the region since the formation of the State of Israel. This is merely the end game of decades of aggression and illegal occupancy of Palestinian land outlawed by the UN.

    You've consistently sought to excuse the actions of Israel by stating how they are being threatened by the terrorist actions of Hamas, without offering an ounce of understanding for the reason for the existence of Hamas (and the other Palestinian groups) who have been seeking to fight back against a country WHO ARE ILLEGALLLY OCCUPYING THEIR LAND - if the boot was on the other foot you'd back Israel all the way, but you've been suckered in by the years of Western PR on the issue and are seeking to justify Israel's vile acts of aggression in this phoney war, with some non-sensical crystal ball theory.
     
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  3. Foredeckdave

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    Typical stupid comment from you. Israel doesn't care what you believe, think or continually spout. It's what they believe that it important to them. So go talk to them and find out WHY they think they way that they do rather than trying to demand that they conform to your vision.
     
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  4. Tobes

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    Conforming to UN law and the Geneva convention would be a f**ing start, before trying to get them to act in a rational manner, you f**ing apologist
     
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  5. Foredeckdave

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    When you have a state that appears not to be complying with UN law (Geneva Convention does not apply here) then just perhaps it's time to understand why/ Total ****ing ignoramus!
     
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  6. Tobes

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    We do, they're a rogue State, who've got away with being so, due to their relationship with the US and their strategic alliances with the West.

    The fact that you actually believe that the Gaza situation isn't infringing the Geneva convention, merely shows your one eyed view on the entire situation. As the only people who've decreed that it doesn't are the Israeli's you f**ing ignorant, bigoted crank.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth...nd_the_palestinians/key_documents/1682640.stm


    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jan/31/israel-must-withdraw-settlers-icc

    Go educate yourself old man
     
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  7. BBFs Unpopular View

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    Never mind the words, it is the artwork.
     
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    Jews just can't tolerate any more the damage israel is doing to Judaism and Jews all over the world, given their recent history they are ashamed and angry at what that terrorist state is doing.

    At least that antisemitism rag has been snatched form Israel's hand, no more waving it.

    Israel has broken my heart: I’m a rabbi in mourning for a Judaism being murdered by Israel

    http://www.salon.com/2014/08/04/isr...ael/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

    Zionism in it's form in Israel and much of the world, has ethnic cleansing and racism built in.

    "We are special, gods chosen people" = everyone else is less than you.
    Obama, "American exceptionalism" = we're better than anyone else so can do as we wish, international law? pfff.
    Hitler "we are the master race"..

    international law is one massive joke, the powerful do not have to follow it. it is just used as a way of controlling nations NATO does not fancy.

    Middle East countries and oil nations are NOT f**ing allowed to vote in their own governments, they get chosen by their enemy. Insane. It all hinges on, will you let BP and Chevron rape your country, if so, then good, you can stay in power no matter who you kill.

    I did not like Saddam, but he was allowed to kill and murder and the f**ing minute he wanted away for the dollar he was killed. this is the reality.



    Lets get something straight about Gaddafi and Castro, the US and UK tried so many times to send their own people in to start uprisings, then when both these men were ruthless in preventing this foreign provocation, they were claimed ruthless criminals under "international law", if the US sent in to destroy what I had built, and Cuba and Libya were well functioning states, I would also have killed the f**ers but not before torturing the f**ing truth out of them.

    sadly this protecting what they had built, having dragged their people out of the primitive state empires had kept them in, played into the propaganda machine, it was win win for the CIA and MI5 MI6

    This is 100% true for Libya, they suffered under colonial rule and Gaddafi dragged them out of the stone age. Libya was a beautiful country, Tripoli a fantastic city and look at it now!! a pile of rubble, NATO are murdering f**ing bastards, it was not even NATO, just France the UK and US, no NATO mandate for doing what they did.

    Iraq shattered, Libya shattered Ukraine shattered, everything NATO touches turns to rubble and ash.
     
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    if you took away the Palestinian situation tomorrow, Israel would be left with hate and racism of massive proportions and they would turn on themselves.
    You can take away the target of hate but the hate will still remain and it gets turned against anyone who has a different opinion than you, a different religion or a different skin colour.

    This is an undeniable fact.

    They have committed sociocide on their own people

    Gideon Levy, respected journalist.

    Threatened on the street, shot at by the IDF threats of death. For speaking the truth.

    Anyone speaking out against this racist occupation is targeted by the droves of right wing Zionist lunatics.
    Is Gideon Levy the most hated man in Israel or just the most heroic?
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...n-israel-or-just-the-most-heroic-2087909.html

    For three decades, the writer and journalist Gideon Levy has been a lone voice, telling his readers the truth about what goes on in the Occupied Territories.

    huge article, too big for posting, worth reading
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...n-israel-or-just-the-most-heroic-2087909.html

    he doesn't want Israelis to have the excuse "we didn't know" and it shows how they turn on those that think differently, even Israelis. Hounding Israelis that speak out against war, getting then sacked from their jobs, getting scholarships cancelled and so on, you can already see they are turning in on themselves, just like the German victims of National socialism, in it's death throes even children were denouncing parents. Israel and Ukraine are heading down the same path while we are all living in a system that we have no say in. We think we do, but you just try elect someone who is against the status quo, like Ron Paul, and you see, it is not allowed to happen. At least with a real prison you can actually see the bars guards walls and wire.
     
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    Israel creates antisemitism and then uses it as an excuse, they created Hamas and use them as an excuse.
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    Israel was not so much a mistake as Zionism was and is a disaster. Nationalism and all the hate that always comes with it is all you are left with. A replaced identity.

    Look at the Nationalist government in Ukraine, look at what they are doing. Using Ballistic missiles on civilian areas and the media is whitewashing it. In fact the EU quietly signed a deal to give them more weapons, arming them, money for blood.

    The East is not attacking west, the west is attacking east, only a complete f**ing eejit could not see what is happening. Meanwhile absolute ****ing fortunes are being made from all of this death
     
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  11. Jeremy Hillary Boob

    Jeremy Hillary Boob GC Thread Terminator

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    So Baroness Waresi has jumped ship. Stand by for the vilification from the Mail and the Sun when Lynton blows his dog whistle.
     
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  14. Tobes

    Tobes Warden Forum Moderator

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    Says it all

    ...and the reason that bone heads like Diploma Dave haven't got any form of informed view on the subject, as the 'news' has been filtered for decades.
     
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    True that mate, 100%
    we've been living in a propaganda bubble for at least half a century, in terms of full on propaganda war waged against the public.
    Goebbels would be saying wunderbar if he could see what the BBC have pulled off since his day. What people "think" they know about the middle east is pure horses**t. Africa, more horses**t

    everyone who has oil but doesn't like the US or UK govs, for good f**ing reason is a murderous dictator, there were some true, but not all, not by far

    The f**ing lies just never stop
    check this out,
    Israeli ambassador to the U.S., Ron Dermer, said the nation’s army, the Israeli Defense Forces, deserved global acclaim for the “unimaginable restraint” with which it’s waged its attacks on Hamas.

    <yikes>

    unimaginable restraint
    and IDF do not belong in the same paragraph never mind sentence
     
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    NBC did the same thing about their guy who reported on the Israeli slaughtering the kids on the beach with a walking barrage when they were only playing f**ing football. Israel has very advanced sighting equipment and technology, they knew 100% they were f**ing children
    https://firstlook.org/theintercept/...ge-witnesses-israeli-beach-killing-four-boys/

    The BBC is propaganda for the more intelligent person. They do the same s**t that the others do, censure real news.


    We are not reading on BBC that Hunter Biden, son of the US vice president is currently working with the IMF and World bank to dismantle Ukraine's economy, and of course he heads up the energy firm looking to drill for oil and gas in the east of Ukraine but first they must deal with the "terrorists" there. <doh>

    The Eastern people don't want fracking there because it will destroy the underground water sources.

    The UK ffs, treats anti fracking protestors literally as terrorists, infiltrating their groups and so on.
     
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  17. Germlands Nozzer

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    Their main Middle East Correspondent, has his Vacation request approved at the time of one of the worst conflicts in recent times...
    I for one totally believe that has being a realistic reason for his absence!

    Shame on you BBC!
     
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  19. Germlands Nozzer

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    Of course it may just be the official line. On the other hand, he presumably has to take vacation at some point and who knows how long the situation will last, having already been in Syria, Iraq (which seems to be going the radar a bit at the moment), Libya etc. Interestingly, none of the tweets in the source I put in say when he will back; if he is on vacation, this would presumably be known.

    This does not detract from the point that the addition of further sources would aid Sisu in making his point. At the moment its one bad graphic of unknown origin and no substantiation vs. tweets from the BBC and Bowen himself. Absent further information, I would give the latter more weight than the former at this point.
     
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    Funny that he should be pulled right after making that report, for a vacation.

    I don't believe in coincidence, this is the biggest news event for a man like him, this is something he would not want to miss. Vacation my arse.

    http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=101896

    it's like saying Gerrard would take a vacation during the Champions League final. <doh>

    The BBC were one of the biggest proponents of the Iraq war and the lies. Making up fake documentaries on Syria if you aint seen that panorama documentary, watch it, it is a joke. No point in starting to believe them now is there.
     
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