Remy fails medical at Liverpool

There's plenty of evidence to suggest what Remy's thought process is so, no, we don't know what he's thinking, but we do have a pretty big clue. I don't think it's guesswork saying that most players are motivated by money.

And I agree, there were other factors in all of the names you mention leaving Newcastle for other 'lesser' clubs. Geography wasn't the main reason for any of those moves from memory.

 

Tash I'm not quite sure what you find funny. We have a strict medical policy and he failed the medical (I think he's failed 4 now in his career). If a player fails a medical I'm happy that we didn't sign him - after all isn't that what medicals are for?

To be honest I wasn't overly keen on signing him anyway - he'd be good back up, but that's about it. Saying that if he had passed 8.5mil would have been a decent deal for a proven goal scorer.

 

The standard northern response; bit of casual racism... and apparently I'm the c*nt?!

For start Remy is a foreigner and latest estimate is that 400,000 French people live in London. That's bigger than the population of Newcastle isn't it? So 'foreigner filled' is actually a positive factor in Remy joining London

Luckily we didn't offer anywhere close to 10k for Remy- you paid his wages last year. Reckon you paid 100k a week? I've been told he is on 70k

One of the 2 main reasons Remy joined us was a stepping stone. We were bottom of the league and miles from safety. Arsenal and Liverpool should have been banging down Marseilles door for him to sign for £8m 18 months ago. Instead he knew he needed to prove himself at a smaller club like QPR or Newcastle.

He would have left us 6 months later regardless of if we stayed up. And his plan nearly worked as he was off to Arsenal and then suddenly this rape allegation popped up and they ran a mile.

So even if you entertain the idea that we offered 15k more a week then you originally offered- after 6 months and he would have earned 180k more after tax then he would have earned with you. Peanuts really in the scheme of things.

Isn't true to say the location doesn't come into it if you honestly think about it. Most people especially a young rich bloke would want to go LA or New York rather than a Delaware or North Dakota. Same when moving to England. Most people with no family ties to either area would want to pick London over Newcaslte. He is obviously going to think about his life and his families quality of life and not just playing in front of a bigger crowd once every 2/3 weeks.

Money comes into it but it was definitely not the only factor. Location and best chance of putting himself in shop window for what he really wants and join one of the big clubs is the real reason he joined us are equally if not more important for him

 

I reckon the Manchester and Liverpool fans will disagree with you.
Don't 'Northern teams' usually win the PL ... cos they have the better players?... completely disproving your 'location location location' sentiment.
Outside of Chelsea the 'Southern Teams' do f** all really when you think about it. Probably too busy dancing around in their pearly jackets, listening to Chas and Dave and eating jellied eels and shouting 'ooooooiii... shaaaaaaattttt iiiiiiiittttttt' to visitors

 

He may well have failed 4 medicals in his career, but it hasn't stopped him scoring goals wherever he went or be a French International. You can be born with a hole in the heart and never bother you one iota. ( I speak from experience )

 

Will just quote Mark Twain on that weird/miss the point response: 'never argue with idiots they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience'

 

You are - and you continue to prove it. Standard northern response? That will be why UKIP's power base is in Essex will it? Another ill informed generalisation.

Spouting off about things you keep proving you know nothing about. The figure of 400,000 French people in London is a guesstimate that the French Embassy disputes, but let's ignore that one and move onto your next inaccuracy. 400,000 is indeed greater than the population of the city of Newcastle, just as it is greater than the 13,000 population of the city of London. Either you're using the city boundary populations which would mean that those 400,000 French people make up 3077% of the population of London, or you're using the population of the conurbations which is approx 800,000 in Newcastle. Either way, you're proving how little you rely on actual facts when proving yourself to be a ****.

Out of pure curiosity, I decided to take a look at the 'list' of honours that QPR have won to see how it was that you were comparing our clubs by size. I knew that QPR were a tiny insignificant club, but even I was shocked at how little you have won. One trophy!! Ever!!!

Obviously it wasn't the trophy cabinet that was the thing you were comparing (even though you called them comparable earlier). Perhaps it was the overall league record that made you think we were comparable? Again I thought I'd check...

Statto.com/Full-All-Time-Top-Division-Table

Don't panic - you haven't been missed off - you just need to use that scroll down gadget thing at the side to see yourself....

Interesting to note those three teams miles above you (ourselves, Sunderland and Middlesborough) from the 'desolate north'.

When you go back to school you should ask your teachers to provide a better education so that you don't come across as such an uneducated ****. Being a **** is a bad enough affliction without being an uneducated one.

Once again, apologies to the decent QPR posters who don't come onto our board and act like ****s, but this dickhead pisses me off.

 

Do you know Ian Beale fella?

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Piss off you southern t**t

the only thing dragging you down will be the currents.

in ten yours after all our taxes are spent trying to save London from drowning don't start coming up here for salvation

ten metres that's all it will take and the population issue is resolved and the north will win it's destiny.

buy a dingy you red bus riding fairy wand.

 

Apparently with Southerners you need to talk about money.... so here goes......


Hey Peter... I saw one of those old pound notes the other day.







How did I do?

 

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/lond...ms-catering-for-expats-in-london-9095523.html

January this year; “The French consulate last year estimated that 300,000 to 400,000 French people live in the capital — making it the sixth-largest French city in the world. More wealthy citizens have been crossing the Channel since the imposition of President François Hollande’s 75 per cent “supertax” on salaries of more than €1 million (£825,000)”- Also a hint at the end there why some of the French government may want to underplay these numbers because they are increasing as a direct result of the punitive tax measures. But seeing as you are sooo intelligent I would have thought you were already aware of the political context

So using the lower estimate (yes I already said it was an ‘estimate’- be interested to know what you think the distinction is between an ‘estimate’ and a ‘guesstimate’ ??) of 300,000 and the correct number of 800,000 that is the equivalent of 37.5% of the population of Newcastle!!

Now that we have the facts I think you can see the original criticism about London being ‘foreign filled’ is obviously not a bad thing from Remy’s perspective especially when you consider that a lot of the French immigrants are largely based in West London. So you don’t need to get your calculator out again and do the sums for 300,000 as a percentage of the population of London of 8m

Quick check on Wikipedia, “The club's last major honour was in 1969 when they won the Inter-Cities Fairs Cup”
If you honestly think Remy is going to think, “hmmm I think I might stay at QPR but Newcastle did win the Inte-Cities Fairs Cup in 1969, oh and who can forget the old first division side of 1927?!”

Point is that is so long ago it’s now irrelevant otherwise he might as well go and sign for Blackburn. They won the Premier League in 1995!!!!!

Mate trust me I know we haven't won anything. I’m really not worried about that otherwise I would support Chelsea. So I’m not in the least bit worried about what happened beyond last season.

Remy will /has looked at the here and now. We are talking about the individual choice of an overseas player joining the Premiership. We’re not talking about the borader history of any other clubs. I said myself Champions League football would trump all else. But if he cant get that he will look at the money, he will consider the location, and he will consider what that club can offer him at that point in time. Seems QPR offered him a bit more money, a better location and springboard for his next move as Fernandes promised he wouldn’t stand in his way if a big club came in.

If you honestly think that Remy’s thought process as well as the money, the location and his individual career prospects will then be influenced by Newcastle winning the FA Cup in 1955 then you really are deluded.

 

Is this a cutting economic insight into the future or a northerner with a chip on his shoulder?

Either way its about as relevant to the discussion over Remy’s considerations when picking between QPR and Newcastle as the 2006 Intertoto Cup win

 

I hate London I hate you

Chip on my shoulder

Erm yeah

My people have been shafted throughout the history of time and soon I'll see the bodies off you all float past.

Behold the power of mother nature for she is my voice and it will be heard.

 

Major honour? Get real.

How come he accuses us in the north of racism when it wasn't actually, but then proceeds to make sweeping generalisations that he would deem racist by his previous accusation.

 

I like a lot of people from London. Mostly ones that have moved there though.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-26823489

April this year (which evidently comes before your 'latest estimate' from January this year)

"(Boris) Johnson says there are 250,000 French people in London. Other British estimates say 300,000-400,000. The figure that is quoted most often is 300,000 which is attributed to the French consulate in London."

I was merely pointing out the fact that your 'latest estimate' - a term that implies the most accurate - was strongly disputed. I notice that you made no response to the fact that the party that complains loudest about the number of foreigners in this country has it's stronghold in Essex and gains a higher share of the vote throughout the south than it does in the north. Still, I can understand you choosing to ignore something that highlights the ignorance of your generalisations.

I notice you are referring to those who worry about the level of foreigners living and working in this country as casual racists. I actually agree that many of the politicians of UKIP are casual racists - and some are even not so casual about it. However, you originally directed that insult at Somb who made no mention of race - only the number of foreigners. You turned that into a racist debate.

I have no belief that Remy's thought process involved considering any of our past successes, and nowhere did I say I did. I shouldn't complain about the lack of cohesion, logic or factual accuracy in your argument however, as you did try and warn us (via Mark twain) that arguing with you was a bad idea.

The point I was challenging was your continued assertion that we were a small club, and implication that we were a similar sized club to QPR. It is a long time since we won a trophy - 1955 since a domestic trophy, and 2006 since a UEFA trophy. However, since you want to make things more recent then you could also look at our ranking in the premier league all time table (not one I am fond of as football didn't begin in 1992)

http://www.statto.com/football/stats/england/premier-league/all-time-table/pl-years

or you could look at our Champions league record, or our UEFA Cup/Europa League record.

None of these are worth anything on their own but add to the history of the club. I only bring them up in response to your constant efforts to belittle our club. I am sorry that you felt threatened enough by our club/city/region to take the time to come onto our board to insult us all. You must lead a very insecure and small-minded life.

It pains me to belittle QPR. Your club has some good posters on this forum. You are not one of them.

 

http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2007/aug/15/football.britishidentity

I genuinely don't understand why we're burying the head in the sand about this issue, to be honest, I personally think Roy Keane was right. Geography is most certainly a factor for some players like Damage suggests. I don't understand why we're erupting into full on argument about it, when it's clear it's potentially a valid point. Remy may not have a WAG driving his decisions like other players that have been in the news, but he clearly likes to party, judging by the court cases etc.

If Remy was purely motivated by money, he would probably stay at QPR, who'll probs pay him an absolute fortune. He was interested in a move to Liverpool, surely at least partly, for the chance to show his exploits in the champions league and at the sharp end of the league. That's not an issue between us and QPR.

 

Remy isn't wanted we will sign someone that's wants to play here.

Peter do me a favour and f**k off or ill locate you like a hungry mouse locates a piece of cheese.

I don't care about your Pissy tramp ride of a city it's future is under the sea.

Your like a piece of shirt that just won't get the f**k out but ill keep squeezing it'll make wiping my arse and flushing you into the sewers all the sweeter.

 

The main point I am taking issue with is his repeated digs at our 'small club' and his need to keep putting down our area - comparing it to delaware or north dakota (both states known for their predominantly rural lifestyle - and lack of big cities/towns etc) and his inference that one of the largest conurbations in the UK was merely a backwater. We get a rough enough deal from southern parliaments with regards to investment and being ignored without allowing idiots like him to put us down without expecting people to defend our city and region. I am proud of both my city and the north-east, and I wont apologise for defending it against ignorant generalisations and uninformed comments.

 

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