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Tottenham in the Summer Transfer Window - 2014 Edition!

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by Moorpheus19, Apr 18, 2014.

  1. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Not seen any links from our end.

    You'll know a lot more about him than we do, would he be a good fit/ signing for us?
     
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  2. NSIS

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    His record may have been good, but only over a very short period. With half the dressing room ready to revolt or to put in a transfer request, I expect his record would have very soon gone rapidly downhill.
     
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  3. No Kane No Gain

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    We were linked to the loan signing of some other defender from a Portuguese side the other day. Haven't seen us linked to Dier for awhile but every now and then an article pops up saying he's being scouted by Premier League clubs and that we're one of them.

    We certainly need some more defenders but we need experience. Lets hope he's better than Rocha if we do sign him :(
     
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  4. HFFP

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    http://www.abola.pt/nnh/ver.aspx?id=492148

    I'm not happy to see him leaving thats for sure. At least not for 5 million euros but his contract ends in 2016 and he wanted to play more. Last year he was third choice behind Mauricio and Rojo (Argentina).
     
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  5. HFFP

    HFFP Well-Known Member

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    Rocha is a donkey compared to Dier. Eric can be in the England side if he continues to pregress.
     
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  6. redwhiteandermblue

    redwhiteandermblue Well-Known Member

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    I hope you're right, and that swapping him for Poch will turn out to be a good move. My worry is that we ditched the right manager because nothing about him prepared us to think he was the right manager.
     
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  7. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    That seems relatively cheap for a promising young defender, so from a Spurs perspective, if that story is true, it's a good bit of business.
     
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  8. PleaseNotPoll

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    Not heard anything reliable, though there were some reports over the last couple of months that us and Arsenal were in for him.
    Very good prospect, though the fact that he doesn't count as homegrown is exceptionally stupid.
    He's not the only young, English centre-half that has been touted for a move to WHL, with Jamaal Lascelles of Forest rated at about £5m, too.
    They've already brought in his replacement, as ex-Chelsea defender Michael Mancienne joined them from Hamburg recently.
     
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  9. NSIS

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    Your guess is as good as mine. As I put earlier, what is impressive is what his former players think of him. If he can engender that same spirit in Spurs, I think we're at least half way there. Having players who want to play for you and buy into what you're trying to do, is crucial IMO.
     
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    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    My first thought is some Portuguese journo saw his name mentioned on here last week, as his name came up as an example of how being English doesn't automatically make you a homegrown player.
     
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  11. RobSpur

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    We're saying different things here.

    My point is that if the players saw that he was in a position of power, with the backing of the club, then they would have towed the line and allowed the manager to do his job. Players who see a manager who is in a weak position due to not having the full support of the club, on the other hand, are going to take the piss.
     
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  12. RobSpur

    RobSpur Well-Known Member

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    Spot on.

    Swerwood was asked to do a job. He not only did the job well but in a way which must have exceeded just about everyone's expectations seeing as he was a knew coach, and yet he was sacked after a few months.

    His treatement by the club, and in particular by a section of the fans, was a ****ing disgrace in my opinion.

    With regards to the fans, from what i can tell it was because they were either too deluded to think that someone who wasnt a big name could possibly be good enough for spurs, too obdurate to admit they were wrong about him when he started getting results, or too small minded to let go of the fact that his dad goes to the emirates.
     
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  13. Spurf

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    I think, as others have said, that the real problem may have been unsettled players. Suggestions that we may have lost some of our better signings if he had stayed. Not bad for Sherwood though, a million in the pocket and some useful stats for his CV. Credibility is the name of the game not football as some may have thought. <ok>
     
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  14. PleaseNotPoll

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    Lloris put in a transfer request late on last season and then signed a new deal after Sherwood had gone. I don't think that's a coincidence.
    Vertonghen's said positive things about a new deal, too and he looked an absolute certainty to leave.
    Alienating one or two players is fairly understandable, but seemingly pissing off about half of the squad certainly isn't.
     
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  15. redwhiteandermblue

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    I wish Sherwood well, as I wish all but a very few involved with Spurs well.

    Meanwhile, I'm a bit manic about Poch. I thought a few years ago a Chilean style would suit the club and the players well, and Poch is going to try to bring one in, more or less. What I have in mind would be great to see. I'm worried it will be too easy to sit back and counter, though. We always seem to do better when we press much more in our end than in theirs. The hope and the fear come down to the fact that Southampton played much better football last year, but we beat them twice by sitting back. Still, no reason not to be optimistic till the first ball is kicked.

    And maybe even a little longer.
     
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  16. RobSpur

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    Fair enough.

    My comment may have been a bit ott.

    Also, i should know how to spell "new" by now.
     
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  17. RobSpur

    RobSpur Well-Known Member

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    These things snowball tho PNP. Im only speculating, but i wouldnt mind betting if van gaal or ferguson, or wjoever else went into a club on an 18 month deal, and with the club clearly not faling over themselves to give support, then they could have easily lost the dressing room to. A vital element of leadership is respect, and to an extent fear, and if the lads know that theres nothing propping the boss up, theyre just going to go and push him over as soon as there's something they dont like - and there inevitably will be pretty soon if the manager's doing his job.
     
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  18. NSIS

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    There's no doubt that some of the new signings were already disgruntled with the way things had gone before Sherwood's appointment. They were sold a vision of a future in the CL under this Mourinho like figure. So, understandably, some of them would have already been disillusioned with the ensuing chaos, culminating in the humiliating thrashing at WHL by L'pool.

    However, i also think that the majority of players would have been delighted to see the back of AVB. The whole squad looked dispirited by then, anyway. They would surely have already known all about Sherwood before his, perhaps, surprising appointment. In short, maybe one or two may have been less than thrilled with such a low profile appointment. But Sherwood seemingly managed to piss off even more of the squad after he took over. I still suspect that Levy's decision was largely swayed by the threat of open revolt by half of the squad.
     
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  19. Sherwood coming out and continually proclaiming himself the risen Christ of Football didn't help, I'll warrant.
     
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  20. RobSpur

    RobSpur Well-Known Member

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    That's it Spain. Take no notice of my point in response, and just make the same comment again ;)

    I think we 'll just have to agree that we're not going to agree on this one fella !!

    Anyway, all in the past now.
     
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