Rarely any happiness in conflict bill, genaside is a different matter, so say my military mates on fyassy
Israel (jews) have been persecuted and killed in their masses over many years. As Billy says they are surrounded by countries who hate them and want to wipe them off the face of the earth. You have Hamas constantly lobbing bombs at them so it's no wonder they have snapped! Can't see it ever getting sorted tbh...i feel desparately sorry for the civilian palestinians but Hamas hide behind them...
They were forced out of their lands and homes and were brutally killed.. sounds familiar. It makes me wonder how they could possibly do what they're doing to the Palestinians and the second bit isn't true, who, aside from Hamas (who are a terrorist group, not a state), want to wipe Israel off the face of the earth?
That's true 50 Israeli's killed in a week due to rpg's. Can't blame them for fighting fire with fire.
I know, I've been there & seen it first hand but I've never done that I came back one time from Northern Ireland to a load of students calling me a baby killer & all kinds of vile ****e. I'd hazard a guess that not a single one of them had even been there.
But the overwhelming majority of Israeli deaths are military personnel, many because they entered Gaza to fight Hamas. Compare the 50-60 dead Israelis, mostly soldiers, to the 1,200 dead Palestinians, mostly civilians. It's not right
There is nothing right about a conflict based on historic religious prejudice...There is wrong on both sides of this conflict, and as usual in these situations, the innocent are never immune from the consequences..
But as someone already mentioned, if it wasn't for the iron dome there would be alot more deaths in Israel and they would surely be civillian deaths?! So the fact there hasn't been many deaths in Israel isn't for the want of trying from Hamas!
I know but we are civilians ourselves we didnt choose to fight for our country, i've had to deal with many claims on pac insurance and could tell stories even a harderend veteraren could not comprehend. The afgan war is vile Anyway, mass murder of children is never justifiable
It's a complicated situation mate. I've been in conflict before. Peace in the middle east, can you ever see it happening? About as likely as me turning gay. I'm not saying I have the answers, **** me, I'm no Henry Kissinger. But after all's said & done, I'm coming down on the Israeli side here.
What the Israelis are doing is broadly the equivalent of us bombing Dublin in retaliation for the IRA mainland bombings of the 70s & 80s. They have effectively killed off 90% of world sympathy in one fell swoop. Johnny Arab isn't going to have much trouble in persuading the nutters to take up arms against the idiots who shelled 4 kids playing football on a beach, blew up civilians in UN shelters and flattened schools & hospitals, is he? Ye shall reap what ye sow, already...
Definitely is wrong on both sides, but just because a terrorist group is firing rockets into Israel doesn't give Israel the right to bring about the death of so many innocent people, especially children, that's the most heartbreaking thing I'm not supporting Hamas mate, the point is Israel civilians are not dying in hundreds every day, Palestinians are. I'm sure the civilian death toll is below 5, they can go about their lives normally. Nowhere and no one in Gaza is safe. Hamas are wrong to constantly send bombs into Israel, but they are a terrorist group. It's hardly fair to punish a population for the actions of their government, but to so brutally punish a group of people for the actions of a terrorist group is evil. The Israeli government are pure ****ing evil
But I thought that "Israel was originally Palestine" so where is the problem? - Its not those jewish chaps that "invented" terrorism - you know the ones that were throwing hand grenades into the british army hospital wards in 1948 goodness me that would mean that terrorism had been rewarded
Looking at this from another angle, if the allies hadn't recreated the state of Israel after the 2nd WW, then many of the post war conflicts in that area may have been avoided, including this current one. On the other hand, if Israel hadn't been recreated we may have seen the formation of a far more formidable Islamic state in that region, which could have posed a far greater long term threat to us...
None of us are over there and can't ever give an honest objective view on what's going on. Fact: Israel are fighting for the right to exist and to live in peace. Fact: the Palestinians are entitled to their homeland and to live in peace. At this point, how far back in history do you decide who has the most righteous claim? There's no logic or reason to hope that they can ever negotiate a long-lasting peace, partially because it doesn't suit either side to sue for peace. And in the mean-time, children are dying. And both sides don't care about that. The danger is that they drag the rest of us into their biblical war.
