Having seen both sides of this argument,I can assure you that city get far more 50/50 decisions now that we are perceived as a "big club" than we used to do before the influx of cash. Make of that what you will but sometimes last season it was so blatant at times it was a bit embarrassing
Ultimately people drag this stuff out every so often, either cos they are trying to wum, or they are just a wee bit bitter and delusional. I'm sure that Utd, along with many other big clubs including Arsenal, get more good decisions than bad for a range of reasons: 1. They are higher profile clubs so refs may feel under pressure not to send players off. Remember the Keane - Vieira tunnel incident a few years back? Graham Poll would have sent them both off but the game was on PPV so the FA / PL put him under pressure not to. Likewise with players swearing - the rules say swearing is a straight red but refs are under pressure not to send players off to avoid too many red cards "ruining" live games. Of course the opposite applies for a high profile incident like the Rooney one when the FA suddenly decided to enforce the rules. 2. They have larger and louder crowds. The larger the home crowd the more decisions the home team get: http://wlv.openrepository.com/wlv/bitstream/2436/8014/1/Nevill10.pdf 3. They are stronger teams so they get more injury time and thus are more likely to score late goals: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/fink_tank/article6887985.ece But all this stuff applies to every club, not just Utd. We get more benefit in our home games due to the larger crowd, but anyone who genuinely thinks there is some sort of systematic conspiracy definitely needs to get out more...
Now then tin hat wearers this may blow your empty minds......... but..... brace yourselves.......... When one team gets 5 mins stoppage time........the other team also gets......FIVE minutes stoppage time... holy mother of jebus
5 mins stoppage time for a home team is more valuable than 5 mins stoppage time for an away team due to the various advantages of playing at home.
ah yes of course.away teams are not allowed score in stoppage time. no wait. is that right? im not sure anymore,my brain is full of losers gibberish. go cry about alonso and torres going to big clubs,theres a good lad
Oh so why all the moaning and crying when 4 or 5 mins are added on when we are away from home then? Please, do explain.
of course but not in the sense you are trying to claim. Home advantage comes from being the home team. 5 minutes is 5 minutes regardless of home or away or neutral.
I am not claiming that this has happened to your team (as that is a different argument) but in principle I would be very happy if the majority of extra time was awarded to my team while they were playing at home. I can't see how that can be argued against as there are obvious advantages which is why I said it was common sense.
Good man for saying. I don't think anybody denies that United get more decisions than most, but to say they get the most and that referees favour them and help them to the title everytime they win it is pathetic. What happened when Chelsea won the league 2 years ago? Was that a case of Good overcoming Evil? Balls.
We dont get more decisions that most though. We get the least of the top 4 and there are other clubs who get as many if not more than us. The reason is we are the most scrutinised.
Surely home advantage means you are more likely to be leading after 90 minutes, and so less likely to want any injury time? I doubt Arsenal were thrilled at the 12 minutes they got at home to Liverpool, and Chelsea can't have been thrilled with Iniesta's injury time away goal winner at SB in 2009.
I think the only really contentious added time fiasco was the city one. the rest are debatable and nothing else, the city one, where it seemed they were allowed to play till they scored and the whistle went as soon as they did, and even with every piece of time added up that could be, it still fell short of what the ref played. it is actions by refs like that, they end up bringing doubt about integrity to the fore. Not saying it was "Fergie time" i am saying it looked as if the ref went out of his way to give United more time, thats all. There is no rule that you allow an attack to finish after time has expired, everton on hte counter in the 2 2 and the whistle went as it looked dangerous, theres a decision in the reverse also to United's benefit.. it would seem anyways where the ref blew up when everton broke free ona dangerous counter.
