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The surprisingly good Hungaro Ring Race Awards

Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by fevriul, Jul 27, 2014.

  1. Smithers

    Smithers Well-Known Member
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    I'm pretty sure it was the FIs but either way Lewis made a net gain of 2 places and in the last shot it looks like the FI are behind. The view point in the race was from onboard with Lewis. Probably have to watch it back.
     
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  2. SgtBhaji

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    Lap charts have him already ahead. Would have to flick back and watch it again later tonight
     
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  3. fevriul

    fevriul Well-Known Member

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    God do you actually read yours posts? Do youknow how infantile you come across ?

    You just compared a World Champion Grand Prix driver to Wayne Rooney!

    Whther you like him or not trying to imply that hamilton is rubbish , just makes you look stupid and foolish.
     
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  4. allsaintchris.

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    The race hype, or driver hype?

    As for race hype, I don't see anyone going hysterical over what he did, but as ever, you don't like it when people don't go nuts and so you have a crack at stirring it up. You do it almost every race whether people go nuts over him or not!

    You juts luuurrrvvveee to talk about him.
     
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  5. eddie_squidd

    eddie_squidd Well-Known Member

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    I think he does jut, whenever Lewis is mentioned. Secretly.
     
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  6. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    really? well actually I was asking a person who claims to be a racing driver instructor why he thought someone who span and got lucky with many numerous calls, safety cars and strategies deserved to be given the DoD over Alonso, who drove a far better race in a slower car that wonderboy failed to make it past. But, surprise surprise, the usual suspects show up instead and show up in their usual pack. I didn't say it was a **** drive, I didn't say he was a **** driver, I said it wasn't a great drive, which it wasn't, and that he's over-hyped like every other British sportstar, which is why he's been in a top team his whole career and only has 1, very fortunate, WDC, compared to SV and FA who havn't and have 6 between them.
     
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  7. EternalMSC

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    Best Driver: Ricciardo
    Worst Driver: Ericsson
    Best Rookie (Magnussen, Kvyat, Ericsson): Magnussen
    Best Team: Redbull
    Worst Team: FI

    Best Overtake: Ricciardo on Hamilton
    Funniest-moment:
    Most Surprising Result: Vergne performance, but always known to be special in changing conditions + Alonso performance.
    Least Surprising Result: Mercedes on the podium.

    Special Mention to: Vergne/Magnussen/Alonso/Raikkonen
    Race Rating: 9/10

    Best Commentator/Presenter: None.
     
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  8. allsaintchris.

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    Again, no one is really disputing what you are saying, or suggesting it was an awesome drive. For some reason that isn't enough for you.

    Perhaps Cosi is looking at his recovery drive overall, who knows, but Alonso was also fortunate with safety cars, as was Ricciardo, so you can't overlook that when considering who the best driver out there was. IMO it's between Ricciardo/Alonso regardless. However, Rosberg would have won easily without the race being disrupted.
     
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  9. DHCanary

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    What do you think you're doing EMSC?? Trying to get a thread back on topic, whatever next?! <laugh>

    Looking like this is going to be one of our top races of the season, anyone reckon we've got something better still to come this season? Personally I'm doubtful.
     
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  10. SgtBhaji

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    Who knows what it could yet serve up....
     
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    Miggins
    Best Driver: Ricciardo

    Cosicave
    Best Driver: Hamilton / Ricciardo, jointly. Alonso was his solid, reliable best but didn't quite eclipse these two in my opinion

    The only overtakes that Daniel Ricciardo made during that race was on lap 67/70.

    Does Miggins actually exist or is he a fictional character created by Sacha Baron Cohen?

    Miggins, if you exist and you are not something invented by the mods to spice things up, why on earth do you even bother to watch any F1 race?

    I can understand why you are deeply upset. You were forced to watch the full race when if Lewis Hamilton would have crashed on lap 1 you could have done something that you are more interested in and happily switched to the Eastenders omnibus programme.
     
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  12. SgtBhaji

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    Conspiracy!!! :O
     
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  13. EternalMSC

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    Also special mention to Lewis for a stunning drive, gained focus after an early spin, never looked back.
     
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  14. cosicave

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    I'm not surprised opinions sometimes vary; and regardless of profession this even includes associates and colleagues! However, if I've stirred a hornet's nest, I'll offer an apology to all taking part in this discussion :) (I know you weren't asking for one, Miggs ;) &#8211; and I always enjoy reading your posts when I get chance. I also respect your opinion, so I'll expand upon the 50% of mine you find contentious).

    As you say, if Hamilton hadn't misjudged his braking point at the first corner, he'd quite possibly have won the race. If he'd won a Grand Prix from starting in the pit lane it would have been a world's first and regardless of luck, it would have been an immense achievement. Yet despite this excursion &#8211; which made a real mess of his tyres and also caused them to lose pressure and become even cooler &#8211; he still challenged for the win!

    With regard to your assessment of being held at bay: firstly, Alonso had only done one more lap on those tyres (in clean air) and Hamilton's were going off quicker, which &#8211; as you will appreciate &#8211; is the case when chasing closely. Secondly, when Hamilton was at his closest and very likely to make a real move, Alonso extended the gap by missing the chicane. Although it might not have seemed much, it was enough to postpone Hamilton's only real chance (because his tyres were going off quicker and would soon no longer be up to the job, as was the case).

    Additionally, yes, the Mercedes is the season's best car (especially when it's not had to be rebuilt from scratch in a matter of hours, and when its driver gets some time to feel how it behaves before turn one of the race) but there are other things worth pointing out here which add credit to Hamilton. Both Mercedes were running very high downforce; enough to put them on par with Red Bull (the car which still has the best aero package). They were also short-geared. Both of these factors removed
    Mercedes' most obvious advantage for overtaking: that of very high top speeds. This is not much a problem when out in front, as was expected from Rosberg, but makes life very difficult when trying to get through traffic. The car advantage was thus reduced to traction and grunt out of corners which &#8211; as I'm sure you'll appreciate &#8211; only aids overtaking if preceding long straights: something sorely lacking at the highly technical, notoriously 'difficult for overtaking' Hungaroring.

    Of course, there's no denying Hamilton got the roll of the dice with his main competitor dealt a rather poor hand. But even the most successful gambler must play good cards very well. Regardless of his considerable good fortune this time, that's what Hamilton managed to do.

    It was a gutsy performance and as such, something I found admirable. Enough in fact, for me to rank his performance right up there with Ricciardo&#8230;
    :)

    [Edit: did I just refer to 50% of my post? I should have said something closer to 4%: it was only half of one twelfth of the answers!]
     
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  15. Smithers

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    Pretty good explanation - well played Sir! Hopefully some of the posters who have scoffed at Nico's inability to pass (including His team mate) will acknowledge that he suffered the same difficulties.
     
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  16. SgtBhaji

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    There's way too much reason and rationality being applied to this thread right now. :p
     
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  17. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    nice selective editing, did you go to the Webber school of propaganda?

    there are at least three total Hamelots on here, and the other Hamilton fans jump on the bandwagon with their mob mentality. I say it how I see it, but I always know what the fall-out will be when anyone who isn't known as an LH supporter dares to say anything against him, it's always the same.
     
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  18. SgtBhaji

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    I'm pretty sure I'm one of the three Hamelots, but can I get clarification of my Hamelot status, because vague implications make me wonder if I'm really doing enough to earn such an honourable title. :p
     
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  19. ErnieBecclestone

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    Oh pleeese, pleeeeeeeeese, can I be a Hamelot too.
     
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  20. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    Actually I don't think I've called either of you two a Hamelot, (an old anti-german git maybe ;) ) but you assume for some reason, whenever the word is mentioned, that I have. Gramp, Fevirul, and generally the people with Lewis in their forum name are the worst, but then, once the pack starts chasing, all the wolves start to look the same.
     
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