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  1. Milk not bear jizz

    Milk not bear jizz Grasser-In-Chief

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    If you play cricket/rugby- you probably want the full skill/experience.
    As a spectator, you want something exciting.

    It's two sides to the coin... the shortening- and speeding up of various sports is because the spectator is winning and beating out the competitor.
     
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  2. Sharpe*

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    T20 is for inpatient American sports lovers.

    Test cricket is exactly that. It tests every element of your skills and is the ultimate.
     
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  3. Milk not bear jizz

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    Question...

    Is football next. Football already sits in the sweet spot for action/length. Not too much or too little of either... but as attention spans drop further... will football have a makeover?

    7 Players on the field instead of 11... you'd get more goals- players would have to run more...
     
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  4. FedLadSonOfAnfield

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    Morning knobbreaths.
     
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  5. Milk not bear jizz

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    Americans have no idea what T20 is!

    If you asked them what T20 is they'd probably guess it is a robot from Star Wars.
     
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  6. Sharpe*

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    I'm referring to them having no patience - T20 is an Americanised version of real cricket.

    A commercial spectacle.
     
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  7. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    depends....

    casual spectator yes.

    spectator looking for the minutia no.

    example..... people who don't really care... seem to need 4-4 to call football exciting. they are called americans.. note football being abused on simpsons for boring 0-0 passing around the back followed by a riot.

    example..... fan who really loves his game knows who's doing what, where players are, why they have placed themselves there and the strategy being undertaken.
     
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  8. jenners04

    jenners04 I must not post porn!

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    and you dont feel you get that with t20?

    you have to be as patient in that and sometimes wait until the world class bowlers have finished, there is as much skill involved in that as there is taking 2 days to get a century, some players manage that in a 20 over game, just like good enough bowlers can get hatricks.

    same skill involved just not as long for me.

    gayle 175 not out in a t20 match, how long would that take in test cricket, and if so more than likely end up in a bore draw.

    t 20 is also good as you get to learn so many aspects of the game as a player but a lot quicker, ie adapting to spin, quick bowlers etc etc.

    the argument that cricket pitches ie boundaries are smaller to get more runs ie 6's etc, yeah true, but i have seen quite regularly players twat the ball over 100m( think its measured in metres?) which would be 6 on any ground anyway.
     
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  9. Foredeckdave

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    Thank You for returning this small haven of peace to its rightful title <ok>
     
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  10. Sharpe*

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    No.

    No patience, no build up of pressure, no continued build up of an innings.

    No prolonged tactical thinking.

    No huge innings. No stamina and mental effort of batting for over a day.

    No history.

    Cheer leaders....

    Its a slog. Almost like an advert for the real thing.
     
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  11. Milk not bear jizz

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    T20 has cheerleaders? <laugh>

    I wasn't aware of that... how cringeworthy!
     
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  12. Sharpe*

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    IPL does yeah.

    It is just not cricket lol
     
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    Cricket is a ****ing **** activity for old men and old man wannabes.
     
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  14. jenners04

    jenners04 I must not post porn!

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    all them answers prove you don't watch t20 i am afraid, also sounds like you don't like or watch t20 and have pre judged it as you think test cricket is key.

    same skill involved, just on a shorter scale, whether its getting runs or taking wickets.

    also if you get a maiden in t20 it is HUGE, what impact in test cricket does a ruddy maiden mean? **** all.
     
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    Futsal.
     
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    I don't watch a lot of it I must admit.

    I watch the odd bit of IPL and it just doesn't motivate me.

    You say its the same skills - well it is because its cricket - but there is not the prolonged effort of batting over a huge period and the mental effort of that.

    I don't think its just a shorter version - cricket over a larger period does test different skills.
     
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  17. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    1. T20 probably drags a few through to the beautiful version of the sport.

    2. You haven't been to many test matches if you think the crowd are all retired <laugh>
     
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  18. jenners04

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    true to a degree i suppose, but then in test you have time on your side and know you can wait for a bad ball, in limited overs game you mostly have to force the issue which makes it more exciting, whether that's bowlers doing well or the batsmen getting the upper hand, but they don't wait 2 days for something to happen generally.

    maidens in limited mean a hell of a lot more than they do in test cricket as all it is is another over gone in test, limited its a huge thing so puts pressure on the batting team, maiden in test doesn't really effect anything, so the skill to do it should be acknowledged and appreciated, just like gayle 175 not out.
     
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    ****ing absolutely this ^ <ok>
     
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  20. Milk not bear jizz

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    What % of Cricket spectators in the UK would you say are not one of the following groups:

    1) Over 60.
    2) Immigrants.
    3) Rich snobs from down South.

    Surely- those three groups capture a large % of the cricket spectatorship in the UK.



    / never been to a test match... never lasted more than 5 minutes watching one on telly either!
     
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