People said the same about Vettel in Abu Dhabi a couple of years ago... But I'd hardly say that having to start from the pits is having a great deal of luck in either case. Both were great drives and had a some help from safety cars.
Hamiltons drive was no where near as Vettels in Abu dabi, for a start the car was nowhere near as dominant as that Merc is, he overtook most people on the track rather than in the pit and he didn't lose it on the opening lap either. Hamilton was lucky, nothing more, if he hadn't spun he might've won, and he couldn't get past Alonso, who had a slower car and worse tyres. Another over-hyped performance as usual.
Can't help but feel a sense of Deja Vu... People played down what Vettel did, people play down what Hamilton did. Both had cars that were class, both had safety car help, both pulled out good results. Hamilton came in 13th in the first safety car, and came out 13th. Net gain of 0 places. In the second he gained two spots because Ricciardo and Massa chose to pit. As for the spin, yeah, he screwed up with the cold brakes in ropey conditions, but show me a driver that hasn't lost a car at some point. Despite that, he recovered. As for Alonso, they were both on old tyres, yes maybe Hamilton should have attacked him sooner rather than anticipating the pit and controlling his tyres, but the car just couldn't get past him at the end. Both those guys were sitting ducks. Vettel's was a good drive, this was a good drive...different circumstances and track conditions, but both good.
You're forgetting the main point here Sgt, don't let the facts get in the way of a good moan Both Hamilton and Vettel had some luck, Vettel with several of the leading drivers retiring (or punctured tyres) from in front of him, both having Safety cars closing up the field, and both having dominant cars. They both also made mistake, Hamilton spinning on his own and I believe Vettel also crashed and damaged his front wing a little behind the safety car Hamilton was driving a completely rebuilt car that despite the extreme precision of F1 would have behaved differently to the one he'd had 3 practices in. As far as I'm aware he got a single installation lap before he was expected to push it to the limit. It was a very good drive, and one that probably upset a few people given that at a track like Hungary should have been a struggle to even get into the top 8 or so.
apart from a load of back-markers, who did Hamilton actually overtake on track that's in the WDC top ten? anyone at all? I seem to recall his move from 13th - 3rd were all pit strategy over-takes, apart from Vettel who drove appallingly from the start and lost it himself.
Regardless of luck, the 2 FI's coming together and Vettel spinning made his race happen. This could be said for a lot of drives though I suppose.
Top 3 for sure, apart from Vergne I can't remember Hamilton making a successful overtake of anyone 'of note' on track, and lets face it, Vergne isn't really any one of note.
No one else made it past Vergne in that opening part of the race, so he was doing something right. Also, as not606 rules apply here, Hamilton pressured Vettel into a spin, so job done there too . Clearly Vettel choked/cracked etc etc (you know the score...)
No, they had a niggle at each other coming out of the chicane (prior to the last corner incident) and ran wide - Lewis nipped past both of them.
From iplayer I can't work out what happened Hulk runs wide with Vettel, Perez, Hamilton behind please log in to view this image Hamilton appears to be alongside what I assume in Perez on the exit please log in to view this image Hamilton in front after the chicane please log in to view this image As far as I'm aware the Force India's had their coming together later when Hulk tried to retake Perez, I dunno lol.
That wasn't part of your argument, you were talking about the overtakes (or lack of). Stop changing the subject because stuff has been pointed out to you that you don't like! As you have mentioned it, the spin was total schoolboy error. He should have known the brakes and tyres would have been cold having not done the warm up lap and been more cautious with the damp conditions until they were up to temp. He was as lucky as Vettel not to hit the wall and cause any lasting damage.
All happened too soon for yellows to be out. Would be a daft situation if someone runs wide, they get overtaken and then everyone has to give the place back because technically there should have been yellows. In other words, you can make a mistake and not get overtaken!
no, I talked about his whole race, he was lucky all the way though, there was nothing great about someone in a car which was what, 1-2 seconds a lap faster than the rest, getting given about 15 positions due to great strategy, an extremely slow safety car, poor strategies from other teams and poor performances by drivers in slower cars. But hey, if you wanna believe the hype go for it, you probably think Rooney is world class too, the footballing equivalent of Hamilton, a posterboy media icon
