1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

Remy Medical -Failed?

Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by seagullhoop, Jul 27, 2014.

  1. Rollercoaster Ranger

    Rollercoaster Ranger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2011
    Messages:
    6,056
    Likes Received:
    284
    This actually puts us in an awkward position. Previously we "knew" he was leaving and were making arrangements to replace him. Now we are in limbo; is he going, is he staying? Someone could come swooping in on transfer deadline day with an offer we have to accept leaving us next to no time to sort out a replacement.

    Let's hope everyone is put off.
     
    #21
  2. neilm831

    neilm831 New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2012
    Messages:
    467
    Likes Received:
    11
    To<party>ny Fernandes @tonyfernandes · 47s
    It's Fifa Time.
     
    #22
  3. sku

    sku Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2011
    Messages:
    2,980
    Likes Received:
    474
    I agree Rollercoaster Ranger; it's 'make your mind up time' for young Loic.

    Uncle Tony and Harold need to call him out on this one....
     
    #23
  4. Grifter

    Grifter Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2011
    Messages:
    3,895
    Likes Received:
    97
    <laugh>

    I've just seen that. The tease
     
    #24
  5. Uber_Hoop

    Uber_Hoop Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2011
    Messages:
    18,613
    Likes Received:
    28,533
    Completely agree; they should give him two weeks to **** off or commit himself for the whole of the coming season. Whilst there have obviously been "the clause" and economies to be made whilst in the Championship, not to mention the small matter of the charges against him last season that may have prevented a permanent move last summer, all in all I reckon the club has been pretty good to Monsieur Remy.

    That said, he'll probably want to go back to Toon now.
     
    #25
  6. deano58

    deano58 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2011
    Messages:
    1,292
    Likes Received:
    743
    if the medical results are 100% correct, then how much is he worth in the market now? not much imo..even so I cant see TF letting him go to toon etc for a cut price deal.
     
    #26
  7. Grifter

    Grifter Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2011
    Messages:
    3,895
    Likes Received:
    97
    He doesn't want to be here, he wants to be a Liverpool player. It's less than 3 weeks till Hull now, so 2 weeks is far too long to let a mercenary leave us in the lurch. We need the time to find another striker should he decide to back out. He needs to decide before the Ireland tour, i.e. Friday.
     
    #27
  8. deano58

    deano58 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2011
    Messages:
    1,292
    Likes Received:
    743
    he will sit and wait to see who else comes in for him.
     
    #28
  9. QPR Oslo

    QPR Oslo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2011
    Messages:
    21,712
    Likes Received:
    6,783
    Yes. But I think in any case, if we are going to play 3 - 5 - 2 we need to find another striker as we need 4 strikers then, cover for both the 2. Playing 1 up front, we could at a stretch have got by with 3 strikers.
     
    #29
  10. Uber_Hoop

    Uber_Hoop Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2011
    Messages:
    18,613
    Likes Received:
    28,533
    Absolutely. My two weeks is simply being realistic; we have seen that deals take time. There's nowt stopping us continuing the search for other strikers in the meantime.
     
    #30

  11. Kilburn

    Kilburn Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2011
    Messages:
    16,432
    Likes Received:
    10,560
    Great run and layoff by Mbia for that fantastic goal by Remy against Wigan - talk about end to end play.

    [video=youtube;EQy7sEo310g]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQy7sEo310g&feature=youtu.be&a[/video]
     
    #31
  12. Grifter

    Grifter Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2011
    Messages:
    3,895
    Likes Received:
    97
    Ultimately he's contracted to us, so is ours as long as no one else comes in? Someone mentioned his value falling as a result of the failed medical- but the release clause is set in stone.

    I wish I could find the article about the sliding scale of prices for the release clause. He'd cost Newcastle 15mill so that's a no go.
    He's cost Arsenal 8.5 and spurs 11 or something? If neither of those want him, then he's 'stuck' with us- unless a foreign club stumped up the cash?



    Edit: Here it is http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/loic-remy-transfer-twist-qpr-3861786
     
    #32
  13. neilm831

    neilm831 New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2012
    Messages:
    467
    Likes Received:
    11
    please log in to view this image
     
    #33
  14. seagullhoop

    seagullhoop Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 23, 2011
    Messages:
    1,796
    Likes Received:
    820
    #34
  15. The other R in Houston

    The other R in Houston Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 7, 2011
    Messages:
    2,078
    Likes Received:
    151
    I agree, I'm just not sure if it's about Remy, or maybe about another imminent signing!
     
    #35
  16. GloucesterRanger

    GloucesterRanger Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2011
    Messages:
    851
    Likes Received:
    32
    Should also be remembered that we've already had £2 million for the loan to toon last season so that's a bonus considering we reached our goal without him (just). It's pretty well known because of the clause that he used us as a stepping stone but it was a gamble worth taking at the time. I can't see us losing money on him whatever the outcome but as has been said would like that outcome settled sooner rather than later.
     
    #36
  17. jeffranger

    jeffranger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2011
    Messages:
    9,141
    Likes Received:
    7,328
    Totally agree would have been better if they had signed him, could be awkward in coming days.
     
    #37
  18. sku

    sku Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2011
    Messages:
    2,980
    Likes Received:
    474
    Here's what The Secret Footballer [Dave Kitson??] opined about medicals a couple of years ago....

    http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2012/mar/23/secret-footballer-medicals-fabrice-muamba

    Some will argue that clubs should be more scrupulous before signing players. The medical I had just before a big transfer consisted of the physio rotating my hip and knee joints, the club doctor listening to my heart with a stethoscope before I underwent an MRI scan related to a bad injury I'd picked up a couple of seasons before.

    In truth, we raced through the procedures, arguably because I was quite sought after at the time and nobody really wanted to find anything wrong. About a year later, we were all sent for ECGs, staff included, with no explanation for why screening was suddenly being introduced.

    During my career I have been fortunate enough that managers and chairmen have deemed me worthy of spending millions of pounds on, although it does not necessarily follow that a club laying out huge sums of money on a player will make sure that their new arrival is in the best possible physical condition. Sometimes corners have to be cut, in particular when the clock is ticking down at the end of January and August.

    A medical really ought to last for a good few hours but on transfer deadline day that simply isn't possible. I've been standing outside a private surgery waiting to have a scan to complete my medical, late at night, only to receive a call saying that the doctor had sank a glass of wine too many and now couldn't drive down to open up. I signed anyway.

    We have all seen the deals going through on Sky Sports News at 10 minutes to midnight &#8211; if all the Premier League and Football League need is a signature on a piece of paper from the player to conclude the deal, then why would he charge across the country for a medical?

    None of my medicals have ever been what I would call "thorough" but they have all involved a doctor and a stethoscope at the very least. Admittedly, though, a little further down the leagues, you will find a few "cozy" relationships between a manager and his physio who work more on the premise of "can we get away with signing this player?" rather than "should we be signing this player?"

    In reality, when there is a transfer deadline, I have been asked to do a medical with less than an hour to spare. Some of these last-minute deals are worth millions and there is no time to do an extensive medical.

    So what&#8217;s the point?

    Well, after all the in-depth analysis of their current state of health, you have to provide the board with a report, usually verbal. &#8220;Is the player fit then?&#8221; What does that mean? Is that knee that has had three operations over the past two years and only allowed the player to play 10 games in two seasons going to hold up for a three-year contract?

    I have had a board ask a manager &#8220;Do you feel lucky?&#8221; when they were faced with a player with advanced arthritis in a knee and I couldn&#8217;t guarentee he would last the length of his proposed contract. They signed him, anyway. Why did I bother doing a thorough medical?

    How many players have you heard of that fail a medical at one club only to pass a medical at another and then go on to play 70 games in three seasons! Are the medicals that are carried out different or is it that one club is willing to take the risk?

    Why do we bother? Essentially, it gives the medical staff an opportunity to examine the player at that particular time, plan some prevention strategies, advise management on how to introduce them into full training and playing games and screen the player in case any incident was to happen in the future. All really useful data that allows the medics to look after the player.

    The biggest indicator of whether you are signing a player who will pick up loads of injuries during his contract is whether they have had lots of injuries previously. This information is now easily accessible on the internet. So if you have only 10 minutes to do a medical, just &#8220;Google&#8221; it!


    Read more at http://www.thesecretfootballer.com/...medicals-why-do-i-bother/#2g270ZUXgumAHW3I.99
     
    #38
  19. Kilburn

    Kilburn Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2011
    Messages:
    16,432
    Likes Received:
    10,560
    With some of our past signings, we certainly didn't practice the following approach:-

    "The biggest indicator of whether you are signing a player who will pick up loads of injuries during his contract is whether they have had lots of injuries previously. This information is now easily accessible on the internet. So if you have only 10 minutes to do a medical, just “Google” it!"
     
    #39
  20. Kilburn

    Kilburn Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2011
    Messages:
    16,432
    Likes Received:
    10,560
    Loic Remy transfer to Liverpool is OFF after France striker fails medical on US tour

    - Liverpool have pulled out of proposed £8.5m move for Loic Remy
    - France international failed a medical on the Reds' US tour
    - Brendan Rodgers must decide whether to pursue other options
    - Luis Suarez was sold for £75m to Barcelona with Rickie Lambert coming in
    - Adam Lallana has been ruled out for six weeks but will remain in the US


    please log in to view this image


    Loic Remy has been left devastated after his proposed £8.5m move to Anfield fell through

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...OFF-France-striker-fails-medical-US-tour.html

    Loic Remy's £8.5million move to Liverpool has dramatically collapsed after he failed a medical.
    The France international had flown out to Boston earlier this week after Liverpool had met the release clause in his contract and he had agreed personal terms before beginning his fitness assessment.
    Given Liverpool have been based in unfamiliar surrounds, the medical had taken longer than normal to conduct but when the results came back, Liverpool decided they had no other option but to pull the plug on the move.
    Having sold Luis Suarez to Barcelona, they must now decide whether they look elsewhere for another striker as Daniel Sturridge and Rickie Lambert are the only senior strikers.

    Liverpool have declined to comment on the specific reason they have withdrawn from the move but it is understood that the 27-year-old is devastated that his dream move to Anfield has fallen through.
    It is the second blow for Brendan Rodgers in the space of 48 hours after he lost Adam Lallana, his £23.6million signing from Southampton, for six week after he damaged his lateral collateral knee ligaments in training.
    Rather than flying back to England, Lallana – who does not need surgery – will stay with Liverpool's squad for the remainder of their US tour in order to get to know his new team-mates but there is no disputing his frustration.
     
    #40

Share This Page