Lads got loads of contract to run, lets turn him into a player. With 12m Fletch fit Jozy can actually take up the role he was meant to, a 6m understudy. He'll grow from the bench, if handled properly. I think it's funny the person who likes to tell others how stupid they are think it's actually fine to lose money and write off fees, it's almost as though they think hemorrhaging money is somehow intelligent.
Some of Altidore's one touch and back to goal stuff is head & shoulders above the rest of the forwards, can we knock lock him in a practice court with SuperKev and brainwash him into a finisher? If he started scoring and kept the other attributes he would be worth a fortune, plus as a big US star he'd be marketing magic for the club. I'd hate to write him off to soon, I think he's worth time too.
I see people knocking his touch, his link up play led to some very important goals. I think his touch is fine, Just needs to adapt to having less time to do it, he's questioning himself so that won't be helping. I'll be doing my part to help raise his confidence, it won't cancel out the ****ers in the terraces who seem determined to play their part in writing off that 6 million, but one can only try.
and for all these Altidore on the pitch 'positive' scenarios to come to fruition the 'negative' have to stop especially the 'booing, you're ****e, etc -especially if we want him (and quite likely need him) to score goals to be integral part to the team - it's all a confidence thing for the player and being jeered is not going to help.
It's funny, I've never seen anyone on the forum admitting to jeering at the games, but it happens, in great abundance. A lot of the people who slag him off see nothing in him at all. What the **** are they looking at? They want a fox in the box but it can't happen in our system, Our frontman has to contribute to build up play, we're set up to get goals from everywhere, hence how our two top scorers were wide men. Jozy is the best link up striker in the squad imo.
Of course it's been done to death . But this is a new string about losing him. Like I said, I find it odd that we can retain faith in some players who don't deliver and absolutely slaughter others for the same lack of delivery. I guess it could come down to how they're perceived off the pitch and Jozy does come across well in interviews, etc. By the way, I don't ever recall being negative about him, though I may have once given the view that I think we could do better. I think the stats might also show we gained more points with him on the pitch than off, at least until that mad last 6-7 games.
Really?? Altidore receives by far the most stick from fans. He hasn't delivered goals, but he contributed to a lot of our wins last season, some people chose to ignore a lot of his positive contributions Altidore does come across well in interviews, but that wouldn't be enough, I believe he is a good player which is why I want to keep him
But I'm agreeing with you PE. He does get more stick than anyone else. Yet we still keep the faith with him.
Scoring goals in this system is a tiny part of a strikers role. People need to accept this because we ain't going to have 20 goal a season striker unless we stumble on the discovery of the century. These people who bash Jozy don't seem to lay into Fletch and Wickham, both of which were a million million miles from prolific. I really hope the people who bash him constantly or their children, never ever have to go through the working conditions Jozy has been exposed to, it's like having a pa system at work knocking you confidence while doing their job. Some of our fans boarder on being bullies. It's that percentage of fans that will always bring this club down. They profess to support Sunderland, they're nowt but Saboteurs, Jozy is better for the club than they'll ever be in their entire life time support of this Club, These people hold us back and give us a bad name.
Ah, right! My bad It's because he has shown he is a good player, despite his lack of goals. It was evident last season his severe lack of confidence in front of goal though. Hopefully that is something that will change, if he scores all the fickle fans who call him "Dozy" and insult him will all love him because he's scoring
Some fans are pleased when he misses a chance, I'm certain. Anyway, once he gets going and scores some goals all the fans who give him stick will love him
He seems like a great lad, and there's definitely a player in there, so I'd love Jozy to stay and prove the doubters wrong. I'm with the general consensus though that I wouldn't lose any sleep over his departure if it freed up funds for other targets.
My point is more about fans than Jozy himself. We're such a fickle bunch. And Funk is right, there's nowt to be gained by selling him. It's just money pissed down the drain. I'd give him another season. His work-rate merits that anyway.
Yeah but they'll need to move on to someone else, it's their way. They're always be a few signings who struggle with confidence or need time to settle, they'll be on them like a fly on ****.
That's my point too. I used to always get a seat in the north stand in the area my mates have their season cards and it was the same ****s every time laying into the players, but last season I knew I was planning for a season card for this season so wanted to try other areas of the ground. I went to 9 games last season and only sat in the same area twice. It was shocking mate, it's scattered all over the ground, rude obnoxious hecklers. They're so damaging to the club. It's so sad, so detrimental to those on the pitch. The place I sat twice was the back of the south stand behind the goal, those fans just want have fun, sing and enjoy the experience. I've got my season card right in the middle of it. Shielded from the vile venom of all those miserable nasty little doom mongers and ready to join in the fun.
I just don't think he's good enough. Just an opinion. But I have never slaughtered him at the game. A striker scared to shoot (as he was at times for us) is no use. He had a hand in maybe 3 or 4 goals. 1 direct assist and that was a mis-controlled through ball he should've run on to against the mags and was just lucky Borini was behind him. I hope he proves me wrong if he stays. I can only give my opinion though
I agree with all of this, but those who think there is a player in Jozy just may be right. If we keep Connor and Fletch, these three should be enough and we should concentrate on recruiting a playmaker in midfield, along with AJ and Giacca we should do OK on the goals front in my opinion. We seem not to factor into these debates that players do often improve, we saw this with a few players last season, and there is no reason why we won't see it again, with the present Manager and squad.
I couldn't physically agree more with this post. Let's go year by year, backwards.. Jozy Seb Richardson McCartney Jones We could go on, we could have more than one a season. All of these players, bar the utterly justified McCarthy second spell, have had huge contributions in a season. Jozy, for his failings, never stopped running, someone says 'scared to shoot'. Yeah, cos his confidence has been ripped away by constant jibes and jeers. I'm not sitting here saying Jozy is exempt from critisism, he's not been good enough, but you know, let's look at 2 strikers in recent enough memory who were written off and targets for boo-boys. Marcus Stewart - failed miserably in his first season, we went down, lad scored for fun, and more so, offered a new contract, admitted to the club he didn't think he could cut it in the prem and fell down the leagues. Left in very high regard. NIALL QUINN - written off as a crock of ****e and waste of money, when he'd not even played due to injury. I don't need to elaborate, but anyone who's been going to the match since those days and beyond, well they'll know what the felling was towards the now club Legend.
Great post mate. The heartbreaking thing is that if Jozy leaves or finds form, they'll just move onto the next, we're shackled with these ****ers.
