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Is Mourinho the worst top flight manager for destroying youth prospects

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by Bergkampspilot, Jul 25, 2014.

  1. Bodinki

    Bodinki You're welcome Forum Moderator

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    Well then.....cements my point on Chelsea contributing to English football.
    Just because they werent with the club as toddlers.
     
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  2. Bodinki

    Bodinki You're welcome Forum Moderator

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    Let me concede though, that bleeding youth is not Jose's strong point.
    That much I cannot argue with.

    Guess not every manager can be perfect.
    Wengers is good at nurturing youth, but has the tactical nous of a mouldy aubergine, so everyone has their weaknesses.
     
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  3. Bergkampspilot

    Bergkampspilot Active Member

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    No i'm afraid you have to try harder than that.

    Cesc is world class and always would have been imo. It just so happens he came to Arsenal under one of the best developers of youth in the game. Chelsea do not have any players who fit that description because they either get loaned out or sit on the bench for most of the season.
     
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  4. Bergkampspilot

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    Anyway Bod! I agree with your last point. No manager is perfect!
     
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  5. Bodinki

    Bodinki You're welcome Forum Moderator

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    Afraid I dont.
    The point I contended was that Chelsea have contributed nothing to English football which is Bull Sh!t.
    I wasnt saying Chelsea are better at raising youngsters than Arsene, which we clearly aren't.

    Like I said, every manager has their strong points.
     
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  6. velachiperoo

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    That was a fair long term accusation at Arsenal. But Wenger said it would take 10 years to breed the Arsenal/Wenger philosophy into the youth setup (dividends we started to see now). That might be the case at Chelsea (but by their own admission they have failed so far) but who knows going forward. I do agree though that Mourinho probably isn't the man to do that.
     
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  7. Diego

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    A lot of youth developement is down to the security of the manager at a club. When you look at the top clubs United, Arsenal and Liverpool have had managers with fairly secure jobs over the years and this has allowed those managers the license to blood young players in the first team without fear of the sack if they lost a game, Chelsea managers have not had this comfort zone along with City managers who have the Elite Developement Squad to choose from and still prefer to buy proven players.
     
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  8. Grizzly

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    Didn't Chelsea win the FA Youth Cup 2/3 years back and not one of the players in that squad have played for Chelsea 1st team ?

    Moaninho has been in management I believe for 14 years and in that time spent an aggregate £800m, I got that from an ESPN article a while back so it could easily be more than that, basically the attention seeker cannot go long without spending a fortune.
    I accept he's one of the greatest coaches that has ever worked in football, but his job is made a hell of alot easier when handed an open chequebook every Summer/January, so yes, he's doing nothing for English football or the Chelsea youth system....
     
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  9. laetoli

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    My principle problem with Maureen is that he's an obnoxious, narcissistic c***. May all his teams fail.
     
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  10. Treat Williams

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    Welcome to the board. Out of interest, what are your opinions on Arsene Wenger, Olivier Giroud and Slayer...? <whistle>
     
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  11. Smirnoffpriest

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    What Slayer, Wenger and Giroud all on stage at the same time?

    <laugh>That would be a sight to see!
     
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  12. Le Tissier's Laces

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    Your argument kinda falls over when you look at Southampton, who I'd argue have the very best academy currently in the country, but aren't exactly renowned for managerial stability (sadly). It's more to do with the philosophy of a club as a whole (we've recently employed managers who have the express wish and directive to play youth) than managerial stability IMHO.
     
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  13. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    <laugh> Who ?

    As pointed out Terry was nurtured under Ranieri but before then he was a product of the West Ham academy.
     
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  14. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    Take the money away from Mourinho and you are left with another mouthy average manager.
     
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  15. velachiperoo

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    There I disagree. Think he can do a job without money. He proved it at Inter and Porto.
     
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  16. PINKIE

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    He still spent 120m in two seasons at Inter though and this was at the time when 35m was the second highest transfer record.
     
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  17. Purley

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    Hasn't wenger spent £150m in the last 3 seasons? not much difference if you consider joses time at inter.
     
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  18. PINKIE

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    Wenger summed Mourinho up when he said that he is afraid of failure. This is why he spends so much to try and mitigate against it. It's also why he often jumps ship so often when things start getting difficult.

    It also explains why he plays with a 'park the bus' mentality. Johan Cruyff once said of him 'He is not a football coach, when you play at home with seven defenders, you must be very afraid'
     
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  19. PINKIE

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    There's a massive difference.

    Read the second part of my comment, the second highest transfer fee when Mourinho was at Inter was £35m and that is only because of the Ronaldo to Real deal. When Mourinho was at Inter, the top players were being traded at £20m-£30 That puts his £120m spend into perspective.
     
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  20. Purley

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    What was his highest transfer at inter? Don't remember him buying any 30m players. Highest was £20m or so i think.
     
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