Just thinking about his comments on resigning Drogba (fair enough) and his treatment of Lukaku (bringing in Eto) and the lack of faith he shows in youth he needs to develop. Is he possibly the worst top flight manager for this? We all know Jose likes his footballers pre packaged and ready to go but what good is that to a club like Chelsea who contribute nothing to English football in terms of talent. They desperately need to show they don't just spend big to solve little problems.
For that reason, I don't think he could succeed without vast wealth at a club. I don't believe he could take over a team like Spurs, Everton or Villa and get them into the top 4. Apart from what he did at Porto, he only goes where there are massive resources.
You mean like Robert Huth, John Terry, Patrick Van Aanholt, Ryan Bertrand, Josh McEachron, Jeffrey Bruma, Sam Walker, Jimmy Smith, Rohan Ince. Just a list of a few players to have come through our academy and who still play football in England.
This boils down to moureens ego, taking through young players has a risk of failure, you will get inconsistent performances and it can take a while to get things right, all jose cares about is his own winning reputation. He is very selfish, its all about him, he has now gone 2 seasons without a trophy, he will not risk a third by blooding young players. I also think he has in inferiority complex, particularly to mangers like fergie and pep, and this is the reason for some of his behaviour, he has the same drama and attention seeking habit of some really vain women, always looking for validation. The only way he can combat this is to keep winning, and the easiest way to do that is spend big and take in seasoned pros, he wont risk taking a chance on youth.
Of which only one has played any length of time for your first team - Terry, who was a first team regular under Ranieri. Bertrand's played a fair few but is not really first team.
LMAO hardly anyone on that list came through Chelsea's academy and only 1 can be called a first team regular. Maureen inability to play and help develop youth makes him 1 dimensional in my opinion. He is never going to be a long term prospect for any club trying to develop young players and if he was forced to do so then he would either leave or fail or both. I guess you can say he is a 1 trick pony.
But what a trick. I don't think Mourinho is a likeable guy. But you can't deny he is phenomenal Manager. I always get tired of this bitching about other player on managers based on personality etc etc. It's the same when Chelsea fans bitch about Benetiz because he slighted Chelsea. I do agree though that Mourinho is not god at blooding youngsters (unless you are already at a high level ) the fact he loaned out Lukaku when they didn't have a great striker was just idiocy. But certain managers have certain skill sets, i think he is relatively crap at developing youth but I think he is a far better tactician than Wenger. Everyone comes with pros and cons. But this bashing of people just gets grating (this applies to all fans). I think bar something drastic he will be at Chelsea for a while so it will be interesting to see if he does overtime gives youth a chance. Lets not forget Chelseas youth setup/buying of young players has been a major failure (more to do with directors of football and the like) and they have not produced players of a high enough level (see the bottom for reference). I do think Mourinho is a factor in that but not only one to blame. I personally think with his attitude and style he won't look at the long development game (it not in his wheelhouse).
I don't think it's much of a trick at all. His inability to spend big is restricted more now than in his previous tenure as Chelsea manager. The landscape of football is changing and a manager like Mourinho will suffer because of it. If you admire Chelsea for their 'success' under Jose you must really hate football imo
Love it! The bitterness......you obviously are not like the Murphy's Also ALL of those players played for Chelsea at Youth Level and ALL are still in English football. Only Huth, Terry and Bertrand played for Chelsea a lot, but I dont know if you noticed this....... There are other teams in England other than Chelsea....I know you're obsessed but there are others bud
Ryan Bertrand came through the Gillingham academy from the age of 9 and Chelsea acquired his services when he was 16.
And im sure he learnt more from the Gillingham academy as a 9 year old than he did by playing for Chelsea Youth's and playing and training with Ashley Cole and John Terry and in the Champions League Who said anything about Academies anyway. Where is that specified in the OP? The statement was that Chelsea have contributed no talent to English football. And I reeled off a list of players who were nutured at Chelsea as youths to become professional Football players in England.
This is clutching at some very thin straws. When you claim players came through your youth academy when they clearly didn't. As for bitterness I would not swap a day of the last 8 trophyless years to support a tin pot souless club like Chelsea.
I never said anything about youth academies I said those players represented Chelsea at Youth level, which they did. A lot of them even won the FA youth cup for Chelsea in 2010.
You are correct it wasn't in the OP, it was you who mentioned academies! and if we are going back to the OP how many matches has Ryan played under Mourinho?
Bah, I did in my first reply....... I hold my hands up!! Still even coming to us at 16, he was raised at Chelsea. Are you saying you dont consider Wenger and Arsenal to have nurtured Fabregas, you got him at 16
Oh and I forgot about Jack Cork aswell, who DID come through our academy and now plays for Southampton. Many youngsters have come through Chelsea, either through the academy or youth set up in general and gone on to have good careers in the Premier League and other below. LOL just looked at your latest batch of youngsters, and with the exception of Wilshere, they all came from other Academies too: Walcott = Southampton Chamberlain = Southampton Gibbs = Wimbledon Ramsey = Cardiff
Cesc said he considers Wenger as important a figure as his own father... I guess this answers your question.
I far prefer watching Arsenal, but I still admire Mourinho (again not a fan of his personality). Also at Inter he took a good team at made them into the worlds best for barely any net spend. So i do believe he can do it (and has proven it). However I agree he doesn't seem to have the capabilities of managing a team long term. However I never thought Wenger would spend close to 80mn on two players so who knows?
Mourinho is a great motivator and tactician. (if you consider anti football and parking the bus good tactics) but a developer of youth naaa not at all. for the future of any club and english football you need to have quality youth coming through and playing 1st team football. This does not happen at Chelsea.
