Sagbo didn't get much of a look in after long and jelly joined so can only really judge him on half a season.
So you think that two goals was good enough? Sorry mate, but it's a pathetic return. Anelka scored the same amount of goals in a shorter time but was a free transfer, don't see anyone challenging that signing.
So two British players with PL experience with justified price tags against a Championship striker who was behind both your strikers in terms of goal scoring last season and cost £8m? Gee, I wonder which would be considered the riskier signing....
I don't need foresight, you've just said that two proven Premier League players have much chance of failing next season, as a player who hasn't played a single Premier League game yet, which is ridiculous. He might set the league alight, he might be a flop, nobody knows yet, but with Livermore and Snodgrass we know exactly what we're getting and how they perform at this level.
Sorry, but what the **** does being British have to do with anything? It's about talent at the end of the day. We've secured a player with ability equal to or above both Livermore and Snodgrass. There is no way on this earth that any of the three have 'justified' their price tag (especially Livermore!) but that's the Premier League for you. The risky thing about Ulloa's signing is his injury past. If we keep him injury free (which Dave Rennie has an excellent record of doing) then I would say he has a very good chance of getting 10+ goals.
Why do they have to improve? The standard Livermore played at last season would be perfectly acceptable again this season. He was excellent, worth the fee alone to maintain a midfield duo that played the full season together last season and prevent him going to a rival team like Palace.
Well yeah, given that he was mostly used as a sub as SB persisted with Danny Graham (who should be on that list). He actually managed 4 last season; 2 in the league and 2 in the cup. When he was given the chance to play, he did really well (bar one match that saw him nut somebody) and his price tag and contract length justifies him as a good squad player. You've signed an untested striker for a sack load of cash on a 4 year contract, whereas we signed an unknown quantity for relative pittance on a two year deal. If he has a **** year this year it won't matter, he'll leave on a free. If Ulloa has a **** year, you'll really struggle to move him on.
What a ridiculous thing to say. You only have to look at the Watford squad to see that it's not as cut and dried as you make it out to be.
Because they're not worth the 16m you spent on the pair based on their performances last season. You need to hope that they improve.
I would say that is very ambitious. He hasn't played Premier League football before, so it will take him time to acclimatise, regardless of what you think it's quicker, chances for strikers at our respective clubs are at a premium, to expect a 10+ goal haul from a rookie PL striker, is unlikely. Personally, Deeney for me would have been the better player to sign.
Not sure why you're continuing to compare him to Ulloa. Sagbo did have a **** year. Not quite sure why you're trying to defend his poor stats. Why are you talking about moving players on? We signed him to keep him, not to sell him after the season has finished.
Well for one British players tend to cost more on average than foreign ones (**** knows why, as you said it shouldn't really matter). SB was moaning about it earlier in pre season. Livermore justifies his price tag because that's what he's worth to our team, plus what it's worth not seeing him line up against us in the future. Snodgrass is a proven PL attacker who finished as Norwich's top scorer last season, he was always going to cost a little bit more. We could've gone for somebody lower down the league ladder, but we've gone for proven quality. I'm not saying it's impossible our lads won't have a **** season, but on the face of it, we're signing players who have experience in both relegation dogfights (Long, Ince, Snodgrass and to an extent, Livermore) and European football (Jelavic, Biyek if he joins) whereas you're looking to sign quality from the league below who may or may not step up. It's safe to say that our signings are more likely to pull us through, at least on the face of it. If at the end of the season it turns out the complete opposite then fair enough, but from where we stand now, we're looking a bit stronger than you.
I'd say Livermore is worth the money, he was outstanding last season. As long as he's consistent this season versus last - then we're onto a winner. Remind me of your midfield again?
It's not ambitious. It's expected. 10 goals is a return of 1:3.8 games. It's hardly ground breaking. Wilfried Bony managed 17 in his first season. Hull fans have a weird obsession of "proven Premier League players". As though they all just magically appeared there.
I'm not saying you will, but if he plays and looks way out of his depth, you're hardly going to want to keep him around are you? Look at us and Nick Proschwitz. That was a daft move in hindsight and we're glad he's leaving, but at the time of his signing, we all thought he was going to fire us to glory.
They don't need to improve, both had excellent seasons in the Premier League last season. Ulloa has never had an excellent Premier League season, hence he's more of a punt. I think he's a decent player, you'll have to hope the same, as Nugent is ****ing useless at this level.
