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OT Gaza, the Algerian donation and the closed thread

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  1. BBFs Unpopular View

    BBFs Unpopular View Well-Known Member

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    This is just down your alley Frank, you disgusting piece of s**t.

    Mothers of all Palestinians must be killed: Israeli MP
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    A well-known Israeli politician and parliament member has branded Palestinians as terrorists, saying mothers of all Palestinians should also be killed during the ongoing Israeli assault on the besieged Gaza Strip, Daily Sabah reported.

    Ayelet Shaked of the ultra-nationalist Jewish Home party called for the slaughter of Palestinian mothers who give birth to "little snakes."

    "They have to die and their houses should be demolished so that they cannot bear any more terrorists," Shaked said, adding, "They are all our enemies and their blood should be on our hands. This also applies to the mothers of the dead terrorists.”

    The remarks are considered as a call for genocide as she declared that all Palestinians are Israel's enemies and must be killed.

    On Monday (July 7) Shaked quoted this on her Facebook page:

    "Behind every terrorist stand dozens of men and women, without whom he could not engage in terrorism. They are all enemy combatants, and their blood shall be on all their heads. Now this also includes the mothers of the martyrs, who send them to hell with flowers and kisses. They should follow their sons, nothing would be more just. They should go, as should the physical homes in which they raised the snakes. Otherwise, more little snakes will be raised there."

    The development comes as many officials from various countries have slammed Israel's airstrikes on the Gaza Strip. The Turkish prime minister is the latest to condemn the offensive, accusing Israel of massacring the Palestinians.

    Recep Tayyip Erdogan has lashed out at Israel, saying it is committing state terrorism against the Palestinians in the region. Speaking in parliament, he also questioned the world’s silence toward Tel Aviv’s ongoing atrocities.

    Reacting to Shaked's remarks, the Turkish premier said Israel's policy in Gaza is no different than Hitler's mentality.

    "An Israeli woman said Palestinian mothers should be killed, too. And she's a member of the Israeli parliament. What is the difference between this mentality and Hitler's?" Erdogan asked.

    The developments come as the UN agency for Palestinian refugees has recently said women and children make up a sizeable number of Palestinian fatalities caused by Israeli attacks on the besieged region.

    Ayelet Shaked represents the far-right Jewish Home party in the Knesset.

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    http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/07/16/371556/israel-must-kill-all-palestinian-mothers/



    Apologise that away you bottom feeder
     
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  2. Foredeckdave

    Foredeckdave Music Thread Manager

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    Interesting reaction from Sisu. Anybody who questions his 'facts' or proposes an alternative viewpoint ultimately get's the same treatment.

    Perhaps Palestinian lives ARE worth less than Isrraeli when their organisations (eg HAMAS) have no compunction about putting civilians in the firing line.
    So Sisu, your statement - f**ing bottom feeding f**pig may well apply directly to you.
     
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  3. BBFs Unpopular View

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    33 Massacres
    Land stolen
    Economic prosperity prevented
    Education prevented
    Illegal occupation
    Illegal settlements
    Racism
    Murder
    Oppression


    Yet you get nut jobs that blame Palestinians.
     
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    Foredeckdave Music Thread Manager

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    If you looked at the range of comments from Hamas you'll find equally disgusting contrary views. Dickhead!
     
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  5. BBFs Unpopular View

    BBFs Unpopular View Well-Known Member

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    All the factual stuff I posted, salient points and legitimate arguments have been ignored by the apologists.

    of course, this is how they avoid facing up to the facts, apologists will ALWAYS avoid talking about the facts on this subject and try deflect or move the debate away from the facts, like say calling someone a Nazi, eh Frank.
     
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  6. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    all i want to say is that the current escalation is merely the result of many years of unresolved issues and at some point someone has to TRY to resolve it by talking properly.

    this thread seems to be going into all sorts of things about now and some thing that elad up to now but there surely has to be an acknowledgement that hamas only exists and is in power as people don't have any other option and that these rockets are not sent just for fun.

    the only ways to resolve this are

    a) "ethnic cleansing" which is a terrible thought

    b) people sit down and talk.
     
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  7. Foredeckdave

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    No pal, your childish strategy of trying to batter any other opinion with more and more trawled internet detritus ensures that no discussions can ever take place.
     
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    A right-leaning Israeli rabbi has issued a religious ruling stating that the total destruction of Gaza is justified if military leaders consider it necessary. Rabbi Dvor Lior is considered to be one of the most extreme far-right religious leaders.

    Lior wrote that during any war where the Jewish people deem themselves to be under attack, they are legally allowed to fight back against the nation from which the attack came from.

    “Therefore, in a time of war, the attacked nation is permitted to punish the enemy population with whatever measures it deems proper, like blocking supplies or electricity. It may bomb the entire area based on the judgment of the war minister and not wantonly put soldiers at risk,” he wrote, adding that “deterrent measures to exterminate the enemy” are allowed, Haaretz reported.

    However, his comments did not go unnoticed from those who disagree with his views. After his ruling was published, Mertz Zahava Gal-On, head of a left-wing Israeli party, asked Attorney General Yehuda Weinstein to launch an investigation.

    “Rabbi Dov Lior’s racist comments long ago lost the protection of the right to free expression. These remarks follow his racist comments through the years, among them his many comments before the murder of [Yitzhak] Rabin and support for Baruch Goldstein,” Gal-On wrote to Weinstein. Goldstein was the man who gunned down 29 Muslim worshippers in Hebron in 1994.

    Israel’s military campaign in Gaza over the past 15 days has so far resulted in the deaths of more than 600 Palestinians, many of them women and children, with more than 4,500 wounded.

    In comparison, around 30 Israelis have been killed in the war, although Hamas puts the figure at 40.
    Lior is a staunch supporter of the settlement movement; he believes that all land between the Jordan and the Mediterranean belongs to the Jewish race, and that Palestinians have no right to live there.

    "All of those who believe in the Torah know that this land was promised solely to these people. There is no room for another national entity in this place. There has never been a state belonging to another people here. It belongs exclusively to the Jewish people," Lior wrote, as quoted by Deutsche Welle.

    Lior was the spiritual teacher of Yigal Amir, who assassinated Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin in 1995. Amir was opposed to Rabin’s signing of the Oslo peace accords.

    Lior was arrested and questioned in 2011 for endorsing a book sanctioning the killing of non-Jews


    http://rt.com/news/175100-israel-destroy-gaza-rabbi/



    yes, of course, the complete destruction of Gaza, and with yer one above, kill all Palestinian mothers.
    All is well, no racist lunacy in Israel at all, ok, Riiiight
     
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    Even the UN, historically quiet, have said Israel has most likely committed war crimes. But hey, that's politically motivated right.

    Israel maybe committing war crimes in Gaza, the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights says. Speaking in Geneva, Navi Pillay said house demolitions and the killing of children raise the "strong possibility" that Israel is violating international law.

    Opening an emergency debate at the UN Human Rights Council in Geneva, she citied cases of Israeli air strikes and shelling hitting houses and hospitals in the coastal enclave: "These are just a few examples where there seems to be a strong possibility that international humanitarian law has been violated, in a manner that could amount to war crimes,” she said.

    She hit out at both sides concerning their conduct during the conflict, which is now in its 16th day, having started on July 8. Some 643 Palestinians, many of them children and civilians have died in the conflict, including a seven-year-old hit by a shell in southern Gaza early on Wednesday, Reuters reports.

    The Israeli army has been accused of targeting civilian areas, as well as using flechette shells during its offensive in Gaza, which can cause widespread harm and death to civilians. Some 29 Israeli soldiers have been killed, including a tank officer shot by a Palestinian sniper early on Wednesday.

    "Every one of these incidents must be properly and independently investigated," Pillay said in some of her strongest comments on the carnage. She also condemned the indiscriminate firing of rockets and mortars by Palestinian militants into Israel and expressed concern at the “rise of incitement for violence against Palestinians by Israeli’s on social media.”

    On Monday, a hospital was hit in Gaza, with four people killed and scores of others wounded in the attack. Thirty of the wounded were medics. The International Committee of the Red Cross issued a statement condemning the shelling "in the strongest terms," Reuters reported. The organization stated that the hospital came under fire at least four times, and life-saving equipment was severely damaged.

    A United Nations school, which is helping to shelter displaced Palestinians in the center of Gaza, also came under attack from Israeli fire on Tuesday as a team was inspecting damage from shelling by the Israeli’s on Monday, a UN official said.

    The official mentioned that a team, who had been given permission by Israel to enter, were at the school run by the UN in Al-Maghazi, when Israeli tanks resumed their shelling and hit the building.

    Speaking at the conference, Israel’s ambassador to the body, Eviatar Manor told the debate that “Israel will destroy Hamas’ military infrastructure.” He also added that “the Gaza residents are not our enemy. Israel is fully committed to international law.” The ambassador also slammed the UN Human Rights Council saying they had "failed to protect the human rights of Israelis,” Haaretz reports.

    In response, the Palestinian Foreign Minister, Riad al-Malki urged world powers to end what he called Israel’s impunity, saying, "Israel must be held accountable for its crimes." His speech was greeted by loud applause.

    Harretz reports that the Palestinians and Arab countries have filed a draft to the Human Rights Council, which convened for a special one-day session in Geneva, which includes the establishment of an international commission of inquiry to probe alleged war crimes and violations of international law. The draft does not mention Hamas.

    Despite Israel lobbying the Council's member states to prevent the meeting taking place, the Palestinians managed to get the signatures necessary to hold the meeting.

    The US, most of the EU states and additional Western states, including Australia and Canada, are expected to oppose the draft. However, as in other UN bodies, the Palestinians hold an automatic majority which allows them to pass any resolution.

    Israel, which accuses the Council of bias, boycotted the Geneva forum for 20 months, resuming cooperation in October. Its main ally the United States, a member state, has also said Israel is unfairly singled out.

    http://rt.com/news/174948-un-israel-palestine-talks/


    To nutjobs like Frank, when an IDF officer riddles a 7 year old girl with his assault rifle, it is Hamas fault. <doh>
     
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  10. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    Can we go back to physics and science, mate? Life's ****ing depressing enough as it is.
     
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    To DICKHEAD Sisu.

    Grow Up. Every UN statement and or action is a political statement.!! If you don't even understand how international organisations work then just shut up.

    Oh just for the sake of accuracy the UN said that it would investigate the POSSIBILITY that war crimes MAY have been committed. That is very different from the biased interpretation that you present.

    Toddle off propagandist!
     
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    A UN vote to set up an inquiry into alleged war crimes against Israel was passed yesterday

    Of the 47 participating countries on the council, 29 voted for opening an investigation, 17 abstained, and one voted against.

    Countries that voted in the affirmative are, in alphabetical order: Algeria, Argentina, Brazil, Chile, China, the Democratic Republic of Congo, Costa Rica, Cote d'Ivoire, Cuba, Ethiopia, India, Indonesia, Kazakhstan, Kenya, Kuwait, the Maldives, Mexico, Morocco, Namibia, Pakistan, Peru, the Philippines, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Sierra Leone, the United Arab Emirates, Venezuela, and Vietnam.

    Countries that abstained are Austria, Benin, Botswana, Burkina Faso, the Czech Republic, Estonia, France, Gabon, Germany, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Montenegro, South Korea, Romania, the Republic of Macedonia, and the United Kingdom.
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    The sole dissenting vote came from the United States, Israel's most vocal supporter.

    The U.N.'s top human-rights official, Navi Pillay, said Wednesday before the vote that there was a "strong possibility" of war crimes committed by both sides in Gaza. In the last two weeks of fighting, during Israel's latest military offensive in the region, more than 600 Palestinians and dozens of Israeli soldiers have been killed.

    Pillay cited both sides in a case for a probe into war crimes, pointing to Israeli airstrikes on civilian homes in the region and to Hamas and other Palestinian militant groups' attacks on Israeli civilians. She also said that Israel has not done enough to protect civilians in the conflict zone.

    The vote took place at a special one-day session of the council, convened at the request of the Palestinians, Egypt, and Pakistan..


    Surprise surprise at who the sole dissenters were. As for the EU they should be ashamed more worried about business and money than human rights.
     
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  13. Zingy

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    How are you (anyone on here) going to solve the crisis. And if you can't, why waste so much energy on it?
     
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    #iwould for a laugh. <ok>
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    By the by that vote has taken place.. one the US voted against it, calling it biased.

    29 states voted in favour of the investigation.
    17 abstained, including many EU states.

    I wonder which abstained and what will occur to the 29 who voted for.

    http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=48330#.U9DGCfldX78

    i found this link on the un but can't find who voted what.

    india says it voted yes is all i could find.

    I'd like to know which european countries this this is ok.
     
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    These are the facts that then spawn a terrorist reaction from Hamas, which then in turn seemingly gives Israel carte blanche to 'retaliate' in a totally disproportionate manner, which in turn sparks a terrorist reaction - rinse and repeat.

    Make no mistake Israel is seeking to systematically destroy Gaza and it's people. They're committing genocide and the International community is simply watching on as they appear to have some form of 'attrocity pass' due to their history and having many of their kin close to, or part of, the Western establishment, notably the US.
     
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  17. Hash.

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    Its there

     
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  18. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    <doh>

    rushing too much

    Algeria, Argentina, Brazil, Chile, China, the Democratic Republic of Congo, Costa Rica, Cote d'Ivoire, Cuba, Ethiopia, India, Indonesia, Kazakhstan, Kenya, Kuwait, the Maldives, Mexico, Morocco, Namibia, Pakistan, Peru, the Philippines, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Sierra Leone, the United Arab Emirates, Venezuela, and Vietnam.

    quite surprised the chinese voted yes, don't they normally stay out of this stuff? kuwait as well... no american buddies in middle east it seems.

    Countries that abstained are Austria, Benin, Botswana, Burkina Faso, the Czech Republic, Estonia, France, Gabon, Germany, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Montenegro, South Korea, Romania, the Republic of Macedonia, and the United Kingdom.

    whatever about the rest I'm disappointed the older european states on this abstained.

    I mean if you are on this committee vote. the politicians here tell us all we must vote but then they fail to when it suits them.

    Germany, uk but especially france who are socialist run now... i know they were part of the original issue but come on!

    I'm also slighty surpirsed to read japan abstained as a us firend so i have to wonder and ask do they not voted together as much any more


    or... does this not actually matter and only the security council matter.. and then only when the big 3 want it to matter.
     
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    Then afterwards whilst having a post coital cigarette tell her your mum is a Palestinian
     
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  20. Zingy

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    Or tell her that during sex... from behind. And hold on tight whilst I ride her like a bucking bronko as she struggles to shake me off. <ok>
     
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