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Malaysia Plane Crashes In Ukraine

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Tina., Jul 17, 2014.

  1. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    Lets' see what the satellite images show, if the missile was fired from inside Russia then there will be some questions that need answering, and that's putting it mildly.
     
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    Looks like Mick will do anything to deflect attention away from this place.
     
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  3. Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction

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    Perhaps, not sure that satellites could pick it up as they are calibrated more for detection of high flying ICBMs
     
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  4. Hash.

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    What if it was putin himself riding a great white shark through the sky and the shark mistook the plane for a dolphin and took a bite out of it thus killing everybody except the superhuman chernobylians.

    Its just a thought but it cant be ruled out yet.
     
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    Although they are not designed to track SAMs there seems to be a school of thought that they can. IF it's a SAM and IF it can be shown to have emanated from Russian territory then it's going to be nigh on impossible to blame it on the Ukrainians.
     
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  6. VenomPD

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    That would be a class painting to get on the side of your rapey panel van. <ok>
     
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    Better than my hand painted "shut up and get in the back" slogan ?
     
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  8. Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction

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    Ukrainian air defence also seems to have a recent history of slopiness

    "Siberia Airlines Flight 1812 crashed over the Black Sea on 4 October 2001, en route from Tel Aviv, Israel to Novosibirsk, Russia. The plane, a Soviet-made Tupolev Tu-154, carried an estimated 66 passengers and 12 crew members. No one on board survived. The crash site is some 190 km west-southwest of the Black Sea resort of Sochi and 140 km north of the Turkish coastal town of Fatsa and 350 km east-southeast of Feodosiya, Ukraine. Ukraine admitted that the disaster was probably caused by an errant missile fired by its armed forces"
     
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    A tweet (in Russian) from a key Twitter account used by pro-Russian separatists, in which they claim to have captured a Buk surface-to-air missile system, has now been deleted, BBC Monitoring observes. Ukrainians say the Malaysian plane could have been downed with a Buk, but pro-Russian rebels have now denied they have it.
     
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    Saw that, but having the BUK itself is not sufficient. You need the accompanying radar unit and a dedicated trained team for its operation
     
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    Suspicious nonetheless Jacky.
     
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  12. Mick

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    I don't think any of us are qualified to declare with certainty who shot it down at this point, even with Google and Wikipedia at hand.
     
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  13. Hash.

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    Mick trying to be a diplomat because he knows gchq and the kgb and the nsa and utv are monitoring his site lolz.

    Mick if you had to raped by one of the above who would you choose
     
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    Nonsense - it's clear as day that Tony Fernandes' business empire is disapparing down the bog and he's now taken to pulling his planes out of the sky as it's better for his image to have the sympathy than to have to wind the company up. You can quote me on that <ok>
     
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  15. Milk not bear jizz

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    True.


    But it was definitely the Russians!
     
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  16. SUPERNORWICH 23

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    The IRA are having a spectacular comeback...
     
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  17. Milk not bear jizz

    Milk not bear jizz Grasser-In-Chief

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    The Irish Russian army?
     
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  18. DevAdvocate

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    No doubt Ally McCoist will point the finger though.
     
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  19. ManDingo 20"/20"

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    el oh el @ the military experts on this page.

    Buks, SAM sites, I Cee Black Members.

    So gay.
     
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  20. DevAdvocate

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    The Grizzly was on Army Identification Hand outs in the 80s while iwas in Germany though.

    <whistle>
     
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