Hatem Ben Arfa Ukraine Bid accepted/Fat Fine

http://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2014/hatem-ben-arfa-being-pushed-out-by-newcastle/

Yet more updates from GFN.

Club want him out, he wants to stay.

 

HBA claims the extra 1.5 kilos he's carrying is muscle... Wobbly muscle.

 

1.5kg overweight. Pathetic, that's less than a quarter of a stone. He should have just had a couple of ****s on Pardews desk then weighed himself again

 

Simple solution. Loan him out for the remainder of his contract. Thus saving the wages. Then he can go on a free.

 

f**s sake. I agree with GG, try to loan him somewhere to just try and save the wages. It really is imperative we get him out as we know he has the potential to cause serious damage within the camp.

I think we always knew the problem would be finding takers for him. Everyone knows what he is. The fact that the best we can do is find some Ukranian club says it all, maybe some of his fanboys can now see what the whole footballing world see.

Turning up oveweight again is just two fingers up at the club. Yet again he shows himself unable to work within the confines of a professional football club and unable to respect the club first and foremost, but also the manager, coaches and fellow squad members. He seems to have some idea he is some kind of maverick who the rules don't apply to. All players are given weight targets for over the summer. It is quite simple really, its all about getting them to live the life of a professional athlete. Ballooning up and down is bad for the body of an athlete. Surely he could have just stuck to it? What is he out according to this, about 4 pound? That's just lazy. Worse still is having the audacity to contest the fine. Suck it up you little prick.

Such a shame, the lad will sit down at the end of his career and think what might have been. Hopefully he can sort his s**t out and make use of his talent for the probable 8 years he has left.

 

We could have had a scarily good attacking midfield 3 this season if HBA could have pulled it together, lost the extra lbs, and gotten fully fit. Turning up overweight again... His whole game relies on his speed of reaction and being unfit costs precious fractions of seconds which make all the difference and result in his attempted dribbles etc being increasingly unsuccessful. Robbed of his strong points by his own lack of professionalism HBA becomes a completely ineffectual player. Pardew is right to drop him. It's a real shame and massive waste. It's just as well that we have signed Cabella.

 

I know it is pointless and repetitive with him to suggest what if, but what if we looked like this with a fully fit firing HBA? Some lovely technical ability. We have wasted too much time on HBA now though. Feel sorry for Pards having to manage his **** under the gaze of his adoring fans. He can't really win. Does he let him run riot to the keep the fans happy and hack off his whole squad, or do the right thing and turn an already anti Pardew clan even more blood hungry.

----------Sissoko---Anita----------
HBA----------De Jong---------Cabella

NB: Sorry Cheick, don't crush me with your mighty hands.

 

He's 1.5kg overweight from his holiday, but he was still overweight last season so I reckon he needs to lose about a stone. Unfortunately, he doesn't seem to care and has become yet another wasted talent. Superb on his day and worshiped by many when in full flight. Anyone with a modicum of sense would say to themselves," I need to knuckle down and become the teams idol again "
I say get rid now before he damages team morale.

 

Ben Arfa's got no one else to blame but himself, sorry but that's the fact of it.

Seen too many fans defending him and taking his side saying "on his day he's the best we've got etc etc" but that's no good.
He has "his day" once in a blue moon then goes absent for the rest and even becomes a liability giving the ball away far too cheaply.

That's not being a professional footballer, there needs to be a standard level of application and value every time you take the pitch. Do the basic job at the very least.
We are not a side that can afford to carry flaky, temperamental characters who on an increasingly rare whim can do something individually worthwhile.

When was the last time we raved about a genuinely good performance from him? He was woeful at times last season, woeful – let's not forget that.

What he's doing now is sulking and behaving badly, showing up overweight (by however much) and trying to use fan popularity to put pressure on an already unpopular manager.
You let a disruptive influence like that get his way and it sends a poor message to rest. I mean, what do these new guys make of it? Shocking.

 

The first two games of last season. He's been consistently poor since then.

 

HBA has a history of bad behaviour, in his last two transfers he went awol to push the clubs into allowing transfers to go ahead, has such talent but allows his ego to rule, if he is earning around £4 million it may be better for the club to write him off, won't get a fee for him but might save a few million in wages that could be paid out to a player who wants to play for the club.

 

If he wanted to stay because he loves the club and the fans - which is the line that he puts out to the public, and the one that the more gullible fans believe - then he would have had the respect for the club to do things right - getting his fitness back, knuckling down in training, not being disruptive. Instead he wants to stay because he is comfortable on a good contract with minimal effort. Staying until he is available on a free will give him another big pay day (he hopes).

For all those still too blinded by the anti-Pardew mantra, ask yourself why he had these exact same problems with his previous two clubs and why not one single top club has made a bid for him. I guess every manager and club in Europe has been Pardewed too?

I loved watching HBA in full flight, ghosting past players and scoring goals. I hated watching him running into dead ends, not delivering a final ball, not passing when that was a better option and not playing for the team. Sadly we saw the second set of scenarios many many times more often than the first.

 

I wonder if we should play him overweight? When he's been "fit" he's regularly has tweeks and niggles, perhaps throw him into the mix and if the newbies make him look out of place maybe he'll get his a*** in gear. Most of our signings looks pacy and/or technical so he's lost his uniqueness in the squad, over the past few season's we've not had the other options.

 

I just think the fans should be feeling let down by him returning out of shape.

I mean if I'd been in his position, knowing my career was in danger at a place I want to stay, I'd have worked through the summer to arrive back better than I've ever been.
I'd have perhaps contacted Pardew prior to returning, requested a personal meeting before everyone's back and asked for another chance and wipe the slate clean. Lead by example.

Show some maturity and surprise the bloke – work even harder, listen and give him no excuse to drop you. Then you have a right to complain if you're 'victimised' or sidelined.

How difficult is that if you're fighting to save a career playing for the best football audience in the world, on the biggest stage, picking up phenomenal money?

Even if you've got to apologise and suffer a manager you can't stand, just suck it up and do what you've got to do. Isn't it we all have to do for a boss we hate working for?

Not these guys though, utterly pathetic.

 

Absolutely.

And the relatively unique advantage of being a gifted footballer is that this is still an option open to him. In a world where talent costs money - a hell of a lot of money - then some humility and genuine hard work could still see him play again. He'd have to earn that right though, accepting that his actions deserve to see him training with the reserves and to prove that he has changed and deserves another chance. He doesn't seem like the type to do this though.

 

Seriously less than a quarter of a stone? You lot must have hated Kevin Nolan. Is Marveaux overweight aswell? 1.5kg is **** all he probably ****s that. Peoples weight is always changing slightly nobody has a set weight

 

Do you seriously think that is the only issue? How can you not see how badly he played for us last season and how even his team mates turned on him? Nolan always fought for the team and always gave his all. Marveaux is another that has been reported as not putting in the effort at training - reported by the same journos who were sticking the knife into Pardew too, so hardly down to an agenda.

It is the complete lack of respect shown by HBA towards the club that is hurting the fans so much. There is still a very vocal minority supporting him, but they tend to be the ones who hate Ashley and Pardew so much that anybody else who is seen as taking a stand against them will be seen as a hero, regardless of the facts.

 

If he came back a few stone heavier I'd understand but Pardew is being so petulant. Making him train with the kids for a start then fining him for being very slightly overweight. Probably weighed him after he'd just ate. A mature manager would have wiped the slate clean but not that prick

 

A weak manager would have wiped the slate clean. It was down to HBA to change. He has done this everywhere he has been. Was it Pardew's fault at his last clubs too?