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Children's football in Hull. Still in the Dark Ages?

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  1. ElTigre

    ElTigre Well-Known Member

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    The other day someone on here said that kids' football in Hull even at very young ages still involves 11 v 11 on big pitches. I did a bit of googling and I found that official FA policy is very different. According to one county FA website:

    "U7s can play up to 5v5, they can play in U8 only if the format is 5v5. They cannot play in U8 if the format is 7v7.
    - U8s can play up to 7v7. They cannot play in U9 as this is a different competition structure.
    - U9s can play up to 7v7. They cannot play U10 if the U10s are playing in a league format with published results.
    - U10s can play up to 7v7, they can play in U11 only if format is 7v7. They cannot play in U11 if the format is 9v9.
    - U11s can play up to 9v9, they can play in U12 if this is 9v9. They cannot play in U12 if the format is 11v11.
    - U12s can play up to 11v11, they can play in U13 if they want to (two-year age banding max.)"



    Is this something that should be happening in Hull but just isn't being enforced?
     
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  2. ollyhcafc

    ollyhcafc Active Member

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    This is how clubs are run in hull as they all have to be FA charter standard.
     
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  3. jayc89

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    I'm fairy sure any club that is affiliated to the Hull Boys Sunday League has to be charter standard. That includes the reduced pitch sizes. Its essentially sticking smaller goals at the edge of the 18 yard lines and reducing the numbers.
     
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    New clubs do get 1 yrs grace to qualify for charter standard.
     
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  5. southhulltiger

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    My lad has played through the age groups and that is how the leagues are set up in Hull. He is currently playing Under 11 so it is 9v9 on a slightly smaller pitch.

    The problem is not the numbers or the size of the pitch. The problem is that it is still very much a win at all costs mentality throughout the majority of the leagues therefore you get a lot of teams selecting the bigger lads and playing hoof ball because it is effective at this age.....
     
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    Yeh I'm afraid that's the problem
    There's more interest in winning a £2.99 league winners or cup final medal than developing skills
     
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  7. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    Thats an improvement then my lads 15 now nd when he was under 11 it was 11v11 on a full size pitch full size goals.
     
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    How come smaller pitches don't negate the big lad's advantage? I thought that was part of the point of it.
     
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    The changes,which were part of the response to England's last disappointing world cup, are meant to ensure that players get more touches of the ball. Other changes include efforts to make matches less competitve by not publishing scores or tables.

    I'm not sure what the FA might try next, mandatory german lessons??
     
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  10. Cortez91

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    To my knowledge, all but one of our U11 leagues here in Hull are now 9v9 (the other is 11v11).
     
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  12. ElTigre

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    The Germans will copy from anyone (even us) says this article from yesterday in the Telegraph.

    And it is true that the German FA is unceasing in its efforts to find ways to keep the conveyor belt of youthful talent oiled. Only last month a delegation from Berlin was studying intently a system of youth development put in place by a rival footballing nation. They had nothing like it in Germany, the observers explained. But they soon will have; they are about to borrow the idea wholesale.
     
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  13. Newland Tiger

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    I think the parents are half the problem , if anybody has ever watched boys football you realise how winning seems to be the only important thing for a lot of them
     
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  14. Tony Angelino

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    "pick the big lads" mentality has been around hull school football for years. I remember been at hull schools and a coach saying to me your good enough just come back if you grow (tosser)
    I also think there had to be a "win" mentality or no ones disappointed when they lose, I hate been at a school sports day and the teachers saying it doesn't matter about winning or losing it's the taking part that counts.... I could scream
    So the poor kid who excels at sports doesn't get the same recognition as the kid that excels at maths which is part of the reason we are ****e.
    Rant over :)
     
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  15. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    Think you should delete his name mate but ye he is pretty useless. Did my coaching badge years ago with him, clueless he was. After that he climbed the greasy pole and is quite high up in the FA and picks the hull schools teams I think.
     
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  16. Cortez91

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    Damn missed out on whoever was named. Pm me it please, I'm interested...
     
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  17. Tony Angelino

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    Yeah he was picking them years ago
     
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  18. Cortez91

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    Who?
     
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  19. Newland Tiger

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    Look in the quote in chazz's post

    Edit , Chazz just edited it out himself
     
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  20. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    <nahnah>.
     
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