I cant imagine that anyone expected him to leave the way he did, but i would imagine that they expected ssomeone to come in for him.
yeah, but i dont think anyone would expect him to be so dis-loyal and force the board's hand like he did.
but at least he has the legend who is Graham Taylor to guide him through. I think the set up could see us do well, but only time will tell there
If you want something to cheer you up ,if you thought we were in a muddle , Have a look at our palace friends! Theyve had loads leave and cant recruit in ! Dougies pre season is going to be a lot worse than Seans!
Very well put BHD - yes - he was in the wrong but ultimately he was getting what he sees as a good career move (hope it does not work out like that ) but in football terms he behaved like the norm - the trouble is that at Watford we hope our managers are more "moral" as we believe in the "Watford" way and this was not that way. Do I care about him - not much; do I wish him well - no Roo - good thoughts but I suspect the powers that be at Watford were not that smart
That is exactly what I think happened, Roo. They all know the realities of football these days. A long time left on the contract secures a decent pay-off for either party should the need arise to call it short. Malky had no idea that Bassini wasn't going to replace him or more likely if he was so much as to 'get on' with him. Security for him - a pay-off if given the 'big E'. The club knew Malky was attracting attention so they signed him up knowing they would get a better pay-off if he went. Of course they wanted to keep him, but the reality is he had done very well with limited resources and that's a big selling point for a manager these days. They refused Cardiff permission, Malky asked for permission, he received permission and the rest is history. I don't think he "forced their hand" - if he quit and went to Cardiff compensation would still be due. He asked. They gave permission. I'm just clarifying the position that's all.
Roo ,I too think you have it spot on there! In which case everyones interest was protected! In which case MM didnt really do anything wrong apart from steal Conway!
Ok Toby maybe steal was a bit strong, but you get my drift , If MM would have stayed ,then conway would be a hornet!
Yes Norway but what is he supposed to do? He can't 'forget' everything he knows about football can he? He can't 'forget' all of the talent he has seen and taken an interest in. I think it's natural. It's not good for us but it is natural. What if Ian Woan brings some of his knowledge of young talent that he gained when he was at Portsmouth? Pompey fans may consider that unfair but we fans can't expect them to ignore all they know. I'm very excited about a SD and IW future. A few more sensible signings and I think we'll be okay next season.
True, but I'd be a much happier Hornet if MM had stayed. If Andy Taylor signs then all my worries for next season are gone. Having a real defence and 2 left-footed players (for cover) in our side guarantees us safety, from my point of view. We would definitely have a top-half squad.
Interesting speculation as I said Roo - but if true it is a shame the supporters were led to believe that the club had tried to tie Malky down to give us another year when all they were doing was securing a measly £300k compensation. As he was on a contract already we would have been entitled to compensation whatever - probably only about £200k though so do we really think that extra £100k was what the contract was all about. I don't - but it would not surprise me that much as we all know fans are not important at all these days. However as I said before I am not sure the club were that clever and am also not sure GT would be party to something like that - I cannot see what is wrong with the simple explanation that the club wanted Malky for at least another year. I have always treated these "conspiracy" theories with suspicion What is probable is that we will never know the truth and also that if the conspiracy theory is true it makes not only MM devious and dishonest but those at the club who were not really trying to keep MM but just securing compensation equally guilty. Nice eh? I think Watford are better than that
Whilst we are on conspiracy theories - does anyone else find it odd that Conway held off signing for Watford for a couple of weeks when we thought it was a probable deal - but then signed at Cardiff within a day or two - hmm did he have psychic powers about what was to happen here? Doo dooo doo do (X files theme )
He wanted to play for MM not watford ! It has since come to light that it was MM that sealed the deal with forsyth! Good on Brucie that he still came here after MM left! and didnt throw his teddies around!
Why all this anger Leo? MM had a chance to further his career. I know loyalty is meant to come into question, but he thought he could do better at Cardiff than here. It's his choice and we may not accept it but it's his life, he doesn't owe us anything. He isn't the first manager to do so and he won't be the last. The board did everything they could to secure his services. They increased his salary and the length of his contract, so if a club did come in to offer MM a job we were in a better position negociations-wise. The amount of money we received in compensation isn't much but then it never is for managers. At least he hasn't done what McLeish did I think what pushed MM is selling DG, but we had to, so where's the problem?
I'm not actually angry with MM - only disappointed that a man who we thought was "Watford" turned out to be the same as most others in football. Of course he like anyone woud move for more money and what he saw as a better position. What is disappointing is that he knew about the new owners and DG and everything when he signed a contract in March - why did he do that if he knew he was hot property and could probably move on in June? That is why I say he is at fault but others disagree and believe that it was all part of a "negotiation" in March for compensation. For all you and I know that could be true. However we don't know that so why invent a guess at people's intentions in March - we could invent a dozen suppositions - let's stick to the facts - a contract was signed - the fans believed from his turning down Burnley and signing the contract that he was staying - the club turned down Cardiff - MM overrode that by saying he still wanted to talk to them - the rest is a done deal. People were very quick to label Rodgers a Judas because of one stupid comment he made but for some reason condone MM's actions. To me they are both the same - they let us down.
