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Strengthen our defence or just protect them more?

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  1. SIR_KENNY_KLOPP_KING

    SIR_KENNY_KLOPP_KING Well-Known Member

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    I watched Mascherano versus Holland this week and was in awe of the player. It showed how one world class player can protect his back four while still being able to launch attacks quickly and accurately.

    Last year, our defence was way too leaky. But it can be argued that this is more due to the nature of our attacking play than the totally shambolic defending. Although when Toure played, the latter did happen!

    I personally would like to see a little more balance in the team. I don't care who we sign in defence, we'll still concede tons if we don't protect them more. This is especially more important now that we've lost our most potent edge up front and will not replace him (let's be honest, replacing Suarez is tough!).

    If Masch were avaialble at a realistic price with a realistic salary expectation, I'd snap him up.....but this thread isn't about that, it's about whether we need to strengthen in that Defensive Midfield area more and if we really need buy lots of defenders. Personally, I'd like to see Moreno in and another CB to replace Toure but that's it but I'd also definitely buy someone like Masch to protect them more and balance our team now that we don't have one of the best players in the world scoring for fun.

    Emre Can has operated in a defensive capacity before but am really not sure if he's a specialist like Masch, so would appreciate others view on whether he could do that role too.
     
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  2. Skylarker

    Skylarker PL High Commissioner

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    Can can do that role - but it wouldn't be anywhere near as effective as Masch (the Holland game was probably the best I've ever seen him play, absolutely immense, quite possibly the best performance of the whole world cup).

    I'm hoping Can get's given a box to box role - but it sounds like he'll be our DM as Brod is on about resting Gerrard a lot more and all the rumours of Lucas going.

    We'll wait and see, but I have high hopes for this Can lad.


    Basscially do the Can Can.



    Also I believe Sakho will really show his worth this seaosn and become our number 1 CB. He was excellent in the WC and hopefully that confidence will come back to Liverpool.
     
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  3. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    I feel the answer is both.

    I don't feel skertl is the issue personally. he did excellent in my view attacking the ball and dominating aerially and wasn't given any credit. If thats lovern forthe long term i don't care.

    My view is this;

    1. Mingolet might not be able to kick it accurately but he HAS GOT TO get off his line and allow a much higher consistent line and he's got to open his mouth. sweeper keepers are where it is at now. lads stuck to thier line as as anacronistic as keepers who couldn't handle the back pass

    2. Shako needs to stay fit and prove himself

    3. Johnson must be dropped

    if we do these 3 things our defensive 5 looks to be capable... without even a new lb.

    But we must also solidify the midfield which gives the both answer. If we send full backs way forward we simply cannot have the case that its only gerrard dropping in and not able to cover ground. We need to address this system issue.
     
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  4. Skylarker

    Skylarker PL High Commissioner

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    Just seen this - Can playing against Utd.

    It seems he was played as a Box to Box, wearing the number 10 shirt. Take a decent corner, and seems to be able to spray a long ball around pretty well. Also get back and defends when needed.

    [video=youtube;v1rAC7UnJPk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1rAC7UnJPk[/video]
     
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  5. SIR_KENNY_KLOPP_KING

    SIR_KENNY_KLOPP_KING Well-Known Member

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    Cheers Sky <ok>

    The lad looks quality, really excited by this guy. But I don't think he's a DM like Masch. I'd sell Allen and buy Masch! <ok>
     
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    Straight swap <whistle>
     
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  7. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    yeah but utd were awful <laugh>

    he looked ok but was not put udner a press type pressure in most of the shots but he seem to have team mates incapable of controlling it too. it'll be interesting to see his first games and how he lines up for us and the style he approaches things with.

    I like a player wanting to be on the ball and a midfielder who holds a good position.
     
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  8. jenners04

    jenners04 I must not post porn!

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    think most on here would, would brendan though sadly.

    we seem to be linked to some strange transfers, or ones that you are like wtf!

    we must have some way to go though, as i'm guessing we are getting all our targets first then selling ones like reina,lucas,agger, skrtl,johnson,aspas etc. allen should be on the list as well but probably isnt sadly, or if he is, what's his value lol 5 mill.

    hoping a lot of our alleged targets are smoke screen (ie bollocks) and we are doing things quietly behind closed doors.
     
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  9. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    i think most feel allen just isn't physically where the game is at. he can work as hard as he wants but there'll always be a guy 3 inches taller than him who'll boss him if his level drops just a tiny bit.

    our issue is we overpaid for him too.
     
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  10. SIR_KENNY_KLOPP_KING

    SIR_KENNY_KLOPP_KING Well-Known Member

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    Yep. Agree with this. I don't think we can play both Allen and Couthino against top teams. Too lightweight by far. The Chav's just bullied us in the middle of the park at Anfield last year and that's where we lost the title imo.
     
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    SIR_KENNY_KLOPP_KING Well-Known Member

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    ah go on then <laugh>
     
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  12. Hash.

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    Mascherano , defence and leaky all in the op .... tee hee hee

    He has a leaky rear after tearing his anus against holland



    Anyhow behold my amusing signature
     
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  13. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    all i heard form sanchez was blah blah blah blah london...

    I think when he find that the nightlife is off limits and the traffic is crap and its still not that warm that 4th place is not such a great reward...
     
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  14. Jürgenmeiʃter

    Jürgenmeiʃter Top top top top top flirt

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    Is Can pronounced 'Jan'?
     
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  15. organic red

    organic red Well-Known Member

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    From some commentarys it sounds more like Jan than Chan

    We'll find out soon enough I suppose
     
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  16. astro

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    Strengthen LB/RB

    Protect CB
     
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