Steve Black - Last Season Was Just A Warm Up!

Extraordinary impact my arse
We all know that we were lucky to gain promotion in the end

 

After reading the full article, I think it's a very good thing he will be there again. A lot of what he says is common sense but as pressure builds it's amazing how often common sense goes out the window. I think he will be the one that can keep a good perspective on things which can only help.

 

Don't knock him. He's not any bullshitter ... he's OUR bullshitter.

 

As I said a few months ago, it is crucial we sign him for next season, and thankfully we have. Harry was a sceptic of what Black could offer so the fact that he is so keen to have him back around the club speaks volumes for what he did.

Good news!

 

Lol,

I'm not against having a positive mental attitude head doctor at our club if it helps us but is earning between 20k to 65k £ per week not enough motivation to give 110% week in week out?

 

I had a crap year and did not earn anything near 20K but I still put in some long hard shifts and took pride in the work I was doing!

 

Oh no, don't get me started, I'm not a Harry basher but is it not the job of a good coach/ manager to motivate the players, not a f-ing shrink?

 

Rant over, If this helps us stay up and not get thrashed then so be it!

 

UT I agree with you that it should be Harry's job but if it works, like you say I'll take it. I too think for what they get paid it should be enough but sadly it's not the case. A sad indictment of how greedy our society has become. I could rant over a few things now but I'll spare you all the ravings from that part of my head. Not a safe place to visit. You'd be safer in the backstreets of Bogotá with $1000 bills taped to you.

 

If it works it works. Expect diminishing returns from this kind of stuff, as he says he has a box of tricks, sorry 'toolkit' which is not bottomless, and people get used to it. You could say the same of 99% of coaches/managers as well though, so it's worth a try.

Just reading his stuff I think he would wear my patience thin pretty quickly, but that's not the point.

 

Fair play sb_73, good post mate!

 

Yep, I think my rant was more of a greedy lazy barstewards type of rant. Hey I'm not against people being rich if they have put in a good shift and deserve it!

Oh well, If Steve can help us stay out of the bottom three then I may send him some money myself as it would be good for my sanity!

 

Money isn't a motivation, it's a security blanket that creates comfort and lack of desire.
We are a team of specialist teams - players, football management, board, youth structure; Black is another specialist team working to refocus people to there aims. He did a great job while with us, and is a good signing for a new season in the EPL. We need to be a serious football club (away from the circus we were last time around), Black will help get newcomers on board to the team spirit quickly and still focus on the current team.
Like Judo, I think he is a very valuable member of the 'team' and will show it through the season.

 

I like the view about money and lack of desire. Never thought in those terms and I deffo see what your saying.

 

This for me too.

 

Again, if our Steve can do his bit to help mould our team into a comfortable mid table prem team in the next five years then give him the No 10 shirt I say!

 

Yes, the second year syndrome will probably apply so the players will get jack of him very quickly, I would think.
Wish I could get a job where I can talk some sh it and get paid for it ............ hold on ...... oh, ok ..........supposedly, I've been doing this for quite some time, I'm told. (wife)

 

Interesting views on the short-termism of the benefits. Steve Black has impacted some top performers and teams through his career. Also interesting to see a lot of 'dissing' of the approach of dealing with the mind. It's our minds and approach that stops us from excelling, Steve Black has a history of helping elite sports people get more from themselves; that's not something to rubbish and be scared of - it's a methodology to embrace and use to become better as a player and team member. I'm sure he doesn't see it as a long term relationship, but we do need him to develop the internal, and external, view of the club and playing squad as a real TEAM! That will attract top people to the club (along with the right package, let's not get dillusional!).

 

I'm all for variation of voice and input. I suspect Black's modus operandi is best suited to heavy initial input then going away and coming back for 'refreshers'/ 'top ups' - that's how he's worked with Jonny Wilkinson. It's horses for courses. Over the year's I have been exposed to many 'motivational guru's', often from a sporting background - sailing, rowing, athletics, rugby (Clive Woodward) - they are always interesting, have a decent idea or two (usually based on common sense) and great stories. What difference they make with individuals is down to how receptive the individual is. Personally I am not very receptive because I tend to analyse what the bloke is doing, what it is based on and why it might work. And as the saying goes, if you want to enjoy a sausage, don't ask how it's made. That doesn't mean I don't recognise the strength of some of the approaches though.

We do definitely need some freshening up on the coaching side though. Redknapp, Jordan, Bond and WALLY DOWNES are very familiar faces to these players and each other now, how many new ways do they have to make training interesting, new approaches to tactics? We saw the difference a new voice can make with McLaren. That was one of Ferguson's great achievements - regularly cycling through head coaches - McLaren, Quieroz, Meulensteen, Phelan etc so that even players like Giggs and Scholes who had been there for 20 plus years had someone different to learn from.