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Hull City Transfer Rumours - Summer 2014

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Chazz Rheinhold, May 31, 2014.

  1. Jezz511

    Jezz511 Well-Known Member

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    Oh look, he's signed so he's no longer a ****! Welcome to the club tommy boy!
     
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  2. captain caveman

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    Just heard on kcfm we've confirmed signing of tom ince
     
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  3. pudseytiger

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    two year deal seems short no mention of any options
     
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  4. TigerMarv

    TigerMarv Well-Known Member

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    There was no road show but some just seem to think that players should have to apply to play for us and then we can just pick the ones we want and they should feel privileged we've chosen them
     
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  5. ellewoods

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    2 year deal? Thats pretty short. Has to mean he will be in the transfer window at the end of this season.
     
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  6. tigerscanada

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    If he helps us consolidate our Premier League status & moves us up 2 or 3 places and helps us with an extended run in Europe it'll probably pay back what we outlaid for him. The bonus would be anything over what we paid for him if he's transferred after a year.
    All would be positive outcomes...with the added bonus being the ability to attract higher calibre players for the season after. Seems win-win for everyone involved...providing he performs.
     
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  7. ellewoods

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    I agree. Im not complaining about the deal at all. Ince on a one year contract improves the club.
     
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  8. Trumpton Tiger.

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    Glass half empty aready?
     
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  9. ellewoods

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    Not at all. Pointing something out isnt the same thing as taking a negative view of a situation.
     
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  10. Trumpton Tiger.

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    'Has to mean he'll be in the transfer window at the end of this season' isn't pointing something out. It's being negative before the player has even pulled a first team shirt on. He might also be our first full England International player at the end of this season.
     
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  11. John Ex Aberdeen now E.R.

    John Ex Aberdeen now E.R. Well-Known Member

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    I have a feeling this has something to do with this tribunal, there is probably a side agreement in place for him to extend, but just saying 2 year deal will lessen what the tribunal say we have to pay for him.
     
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  12. ellewoods

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    No its not being negative. I am excited that he signed for us and I think he will be a wonderful addition. It was simply pointing out that something is going on there as a 2 year contract is basically unheard of for a non development squad player or a really old player. You are reading negativity into something that is just not there.

    Like John says it probably has something to do with the tribunal.
     
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  13. Amin Arrears

    Amin Arrears Well-Known Member

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    I don't think the length of the contract we offer him has anything to do with the compensation fee, although free transfers on 2 year deals does seem to be fairly standard practice.
     
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  14. John Ex Aberdeen now E.R.

    John Ex Aberdeen now E.R. Well-Known Member

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    But it is not a free transfer we will have to pay a fee, we couldn't agree with Blackpool, so the tribunal has to fix a price now.
     
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  15. Amin Arrears

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    In premier league terms, it may as well be a free transfer. The compensation fee will be shrapnel.
     
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  16. ellewoods

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    It only goes to a tribunal if we cant agree with Blackpool. We have according to the media offered them 3.5 million. That amount is hardly shrapnel.
     
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  17. John Ex Aberdeen now E.R.

    John Ex Aberdeen now E.R. Well-Known Member

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    I think my father would be pleased it the bit of shrapnel he still had after the war was worth £3.5M
     
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  18. Amin Arrears

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    I very much doubt it will be anything like that.
     
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  19. John Ex Aberdeen now E.R.

    John Ex Aberdeen now E.R. Well-Known Member

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    That is why they have agree initially a 2 year contract.
     
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  20. Amin Arrears

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    I posted the section from the rule book that has the guidelines for how compensation fees are determined in the other thread. Here's the post:

    He cost Blackpool £150k. There's no way all the other criteria add up to even £1m, never mind £3.35m, so I think the media are just speculating and are well wide of the mark.

    Compensation fees are there to stop clubs being left empty handed for investing in youth once a young players had his head turned by a more favourable club and run his contract down. It's not about getting the transferor club the market value of the player, it's about recovering the costs of developing a young player. If they wanted to get a big fee for Ince, they should have sold him when he was under contract. They had big offers and they turned them down, that's their own fault. Whatever clubs may have offered to buy him or paid to loan him previously has no baring on what the tribunal will deem they deserve.
     
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