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O/T Vegetarianism

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by captain caveman, Jul 3, 2014.

  1. Kempton

    Kempton Well-Known Member

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    Oh my very very word, NOOOOOOOOOO !!!!!

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...London-restaurant-Icecreamists-Baby-Gaga.html
     
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  2. Charlie1

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  3. Kempton

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    Bet you wouldn't though... We could set this up in Linnet car park if you like ?
     
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  4. Ernie Shackleton

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    Bin there, dun that.
     
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  5. bigfattiger

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    I think they mean intentionally not just by accident Shack :)
     
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  6. HCAFC (Airlie Tiger)

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    They have all the essential amino acids (9 of them) but there are actually 20 amino acids the body needs (although it is capable of producing the other 11), hence they are still not complete protein sources.

    However soy contains such small amounts of methionine and lysine that you usually need to supplement this with another protein source anyway.
     
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  7. Leon T Trout AFC

    Leon T Trout AFC Well-Known Member

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    Find it weird that people who eat meat get so worked up by people who choose not to eat meat.

    Some sort of insecurity?
     
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  8. Spook

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    I find it weird that some people don't eat meat, I'm not bothered by it, I just find it peculiar.
     
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  9. HebridesTiger

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    You find it weird and peculiar that people don't eat meat.You're not bothered about it but still felt the urge to tell us all that,to you,it's weird and peculiar.I think L T Trout AFCs point has been sort of validated.
     
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  10. Amin Arrears

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    Has anyone ever wondered how many cows they must have consumed over their life time?
     
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  11. armchairfan

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    Huh ,most vegetables aren't eaten raw either just like meat. Cooking was actually a big step forward for humans and probably helped our brains get bigger. People should eat more vegetables but there's a lot of pseudo science-babble behind vegetarianism I'm sure. I saw a program on healthiest diets among countries the other day and some fish eaters are high up the list. Inuits who just eat meat were even ranked very high.
     
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  12. DMD

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    The more you look, the more it seems conclusive we've always been omnivorous rather than just any of the forms of vegetarianism.

    "All the available evidence indicates that the natural human diet is omnivorous and would include meat."

    https://www.vrg.org/nutshell/omni.htm : The Vegetarian Resource Group (VRG) is a non-profit organization dedicated to educating the public on vegetarianism and the interrelated issues of health, nutrition, ecology, ethics, and world hunger.


    It seems one possible reason we survived over the neanderthals, was because we could eat rabbits. They preferred bigger animals.
    http://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/what-killed-neanderthals

    Neanderthals were big-game hunters who feasted on mammoth and rhino but didn’t or couldn’t eat smaller, leaner meat. Their picky diet — or limited hunting skills — could have made them vulnerable when mammal populations shrank and their favorite dinner became harder to find.

    A broad survey of animal remains recorded at early human and Neanderthal sites across Spain, Portugal and France gives us new insight as to what humans and Neanderthals ate. One trend stuck out to scientists who assembled the data: Rabbit remains became much more popular at human sites just about the time that Neanderthals disappeared, about 30,000 years ago.

    Given how common bunnies would have been in that area, the trend hints that Neanderthals did not adapt their diet to include them. After all, the evidence suggests, early humans seem to have made the switch.

    There’s no data to explain this trend, but there are theories. Neanderthals may have avoided rabbit dinners because they lacked the technology to catch them, says John Stewart, who studies fossil records and ancient climate at Bournemouth University.

    “With modern humans, you see technology that allows them to catch smaller or faster-moving prey,” Stewart told NBC News. That leads to the “strong possibility” that humans were more efficient than Neanderthals at catching smaller but faster animals. Stewart and his collaborators explain their findings in a paper in the Journal of Human Evolution.

    Of course, Neanderthals didn’t just live in Iberia. And in n other parts of the world, there’s evidence to show that they were catching seals and fish and mussels, and even birds.

    But Stewart believes that the rabbit diet story is an indication of challenges Neanderthals faced all over the world. “I think the rabbit was just a symptom [of their extinction] rather than the cause,” Stewart says. “Neanderthals were more vulnerable because they had less tricks up their sleeve, less breadth of possibilities.”
     
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  13. Happy Tiger

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    What I find weird is veggies expect other people when visiting them to cater to their self imposed dietary choices and to only serve them veggie stuff (NB if its for medial reasons, that's fine, and different), yet if they are visited in their home by a non veggie, will not cook them a nice juicy steak.

    Some sort of control and insecurity issues?
     
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  14. Party Hull!

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    I'm going out for tea tonight and I can feel a steak coming on.
     
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  15. HCAFC (Airlie Tiger)

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    We can and do eat most fruit and vegetables raw, cooking them is a choice not a necessity.

    A vegetarian diet that includes fish but excludes diary is by far the healthiest way to eat.
     
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  16. Leon T Trout AFC

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    No surprise to find my contention has upset your broad mind.

    Crikey, to think, some people in ‘not wanting to eat certain types of food’ shock.

    How interesting.
     
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  17. HCAFC (Airlie Tiger)

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    If it is for moral reasons I can understand, however most people I have encountered that don't eat meat for moral reasons still wear leather and drink beer (a lot of it is filtered through fish guts), if that's the case then its a bit hypocritical not to cater for your guests as they would for you.
     
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  18. HCAFC (Airlie Tiger)

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    Its not a case of you not wanting to eat something, the issue Happy has raised is people expecting someone to cater for their choices but then are not willing to accommodate that other persons choices in return.
     
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  19. Amin Arrears

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    It's a very valid point and very true.

    Judge the post rather than the author.
     
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  20. TreeHugger

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    I'm sure a vegetarian would happily cook for you. It just wouldn't include one specific type of food that you do eat. Does every meal you eat include meat? I never understand people who won't eat something because it's veggie. It's still food, often bloody good food.

    The difference is a veggie can't/won't eat meat, you can eat anything. A vegetarian has a dietary requirement (self imposed or not) whereas you don't. You don't require meat.
     
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