all i can say lads is all the very best with everything. I cannot imagine how it even feels, i've only seen from the outside so it must be hard
I suffered from Hypothyroidism (reduced thyroid function), it was due to the Fluoride in Irish water. Tired lethargic achy and depression. Magnesium, Iodine and no Fluoride helped me immensely. That's not to say it is the same for you, I am no doctor, just speaking from personal experience. Always see a doctor obviously Fluoride causes Hypothyroidism in many people. When I mentioned root cause earlier it was in the context of depression, which has a root cause either physical or mental, pills are not always the final solution
Some research shows that the condition of your gut can cause depression. IBS which is just that can bring on depression which fits in with that research.
This. get a dog, long walks - give up alcohol! Wish I'd learned this 20 years ago. Anti-depressants are not the answer. Even children are chemically doped now if they find life a problem (normally not enough exercise, stimulation and adventure). But it doesn't help in Luis' case that some of his paranoia is true: the ****ing Evra case WAS appalling. He wasn't losing in that scenario - Evra was. Evra was the one who was being frustrated and was looking for a confrontation; Luis was the one in control. All the wiseacres on here saying that this proves Luis was lying over the Evra business are jumping to the same easy, lazy conclusions that the English press did. Even Martin Samuel, who hates Liverpool with a vengeance, said that after Ivanovic bite: just because you're paranoid doesn't mean the world isn't out to get you. And to me this is where the proof lies that, unfortunately, Luis does lack any self-control and has mental issues. He was on top of the world after the England game and had (rightly) thrown a glorious v-sign at his tormentors in the English media. As with before the Ivanovic bite, he must know he's a ****ing marked man. To go and do what he then did shows, in my opinion, that when he's out on the pitch and the game is going against him he loses all reason fear of consequences for his actions. Some people have tried to make this out as a 'reflex' action, like Pavlov's dog or something. In the case of Ivanovic he practically rolled his sleeve up, and Cheillini one was no better. No, he made up his min to do it in both cases when the defender blocked off his run - perfectly legally - and frustrated him. And there's the rub - the crocodile tears. After the Ivanovic thing he admitted he had a problem and controlled it, but only after after using his energies to rail against the unjust severity(1) of the ban. And now, only after focussing and being indulged/comforted again about the severity/'injustice' of the penalties against him, does he climb down somewhat and concentrate (for whatever motivation) on apologies and rehabilitation. Always the same pattern though; the uncontrolled act, the defiance at the unjust severity of the consequences/ the contrition advised by others that he doesn't really understand. Like Maradonna, I suspect he'll never truly break this cycle at all. There WILL be another incident, as these are not simple reflex actions but an underlying condition of losing all fear of the consequences of his actions when frustrated, i.e he's never ****ing grown up. (1)Before the haters jump in with their accusations of apologist reasonings for Luis' previous bans, I'm not the only one to suggest some of Luis' previous bans have been grandstanding by the relevant football bodies: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...uis-Suarez-easy-targets-FAs-rogue-regime.html The point is, the ridiculously over-the-top bans Luis has received have added to his victim status rather than effected any real contrition or reflection on his acts. Not that the FA or the pitchfork gangs are arsed about that; they, and now the world, have their pantomime villain, and the fact that Luis can't see that and quit whilst he's well ahead (like after the England game) is the infuriating bit.
An interesting read. I use beta blockers (Propranlol) when I'm going into a stressful situation that I know will struggle with. I don't use them that often even though I think it's one of them drugs you need to take continuosly for them to work properly. As soon as I've popped the pill the relief is almost immediate which of course is impossible so it's mostly psychological for me. As for Luis, can't we just buy him a gum shield and make him wear it when he plays?
If he has an actual mental health issue as opposed to some sort of control problem then Liverpool, Ajax and his national team have all failed him massively. He has worked with professionals at the club and they should have at least recognised a mental health problem even if failing to give a correct diagnoses. Whilst this often happens outside the world of football I'd expect given the one to one help he was given following his previous biting and racial incidents that someone should have noticed if he had a real mental health problem and at least referred him to a specialist. Personally I don't think that is the issue with Suarez, but I'm not a doctor and I haven't had one to one time with him! As for the pills discussion, they are often the only way for certain people to cope with there current situation. Sometimes this means getting over a hump and then comming off them with the help of cbt, other therapy or just individual realisations. Other times people need to be on pills for a long period of time or even for life dependant on the mental health condition. As for ssri's, whilst they help some people they totally mess up other people. It's an individual thing.
Sometimes the route cause is a mental health problem that requires medication to deal with. I'm all for not stuffing people full of pills but there are a lot of cases where it is the best option.
True that mate but if you had read through, I was speaking about depression, not mental health in general. You're not the first to miss that
In my line of work I deal a lot with people that have dual diagnosis. Addiction is why they intially get referred but quite a high percentage have mental health problems also. It's an interesting debate in my field - bit like what came first the chicken or the egg. As in did the addiction cause the mental health problems or did the mental health problems exist and were magnified due to the addiction. I'm also a qualified CBT and REBT practitioner. The ABC of REBT would be a perfect tool to look at irrational thinking, that leads to irrational behaviour. If you look up 'The ABC model of REBT' and have a read about how it works, you'll see that it fits perfectly with what Hash is saying in the OP. http://www.stressgroup.com/abcscrashcourse.html I'm a huge fan of Albert Ellis who pioneered REBT back in the 50's - it's just a shame he's not around to see how many professionals use it these days. http://albertellis.org
