In fact lammy man those looking after people with nasty disability's wouldn't just get in for free if I had my way the club would buy a couple of special buses and actually take them to the stadium. And back home after the game in cases were travel is impossible Without help
That's impossible, but things can be done to accommodate the wishes of more people. Just blandly stating what one individual wants or likes doesn't resolve much. A LOT of people are unhappy. The Club are having to do extra work that they could have avoided and CTWD have lost voters.
She doesn't want a free ticket, she was happy paying for her own full price pass and getting a concessionary pass for her daughter, something that she should be able to continue to do. Suggesting that the disabled should be shipped in on special busses is barbaric.
Not having a dig at the disabled, but where does her situation differ from others faced with a large price increase? How did CTWD decide that this was a policy and other issues were not?
No, we're backing one of our founder members who challenged James Mooney over this on RH last week and deserves the support of Hull City's biggest supporter group.
If you're going to bring this up you need to bring out more of the details. Why has it jumped from £150 to £500 and not £250?? What disability does the girl have? Has she been reassessed and not eligible for DLA etc now?
Her situation differs, as she'll never be able to attend unaided and she'll never be able to earn her own income, it is impossible for her situation to change. The dynamic ticketing policy in an expanded stadium could very easily help those with a low income, the unemployed, students, or anyone else who's short if cash. There are clubs adopting these more progressive pricing policies already. Man City particularly, are working with the community with whole range of different initiatives.
Nobody has yet, as I said we're meeting next week to decide which issues will be added to our aims and which won't, but it's fairly obvious from the email correspondence so far that this has pretty much universal support.
I gave one example, this is about the principal rather than a single persons circumstances. It's not my place to give out detailed information on the disabilities of our members kids ffs.
What prompted the email correspondence, given I know a few members and this is the first we've heard. Most would prefer the time to be spent on sorting the **** up of the stand move. Also, your argument on the justification in your previous reply doesn't stack up, but it looks like you've made your mind up, so it's going ahead regardless. I'm more than happy to help the less fortunate, but the way this is being pushed through without discussion smacks of the very thing that the club are doing and it seems to be being run to suit the views of the committee instead of the members.
You said you were backing one of your founder members, who has already put it in the public domain on RH. Why has her ticket gone from £150 to £500? I dont get that. There is a disabled users group. Has she brought it up there? If as you say she cant and will never work then she will get a lot in benefits, as Filey says, more than people on low wages in a lot of cases. You're opening up a minefield here if you go down this route.
Another question; When people asked about CTWD and the seat move, you said CTWD was a single issue group and couldn't get involved. How come they can now seem to know which other issues they can NOW get involved or not involved with? Have I missed the discussion with members?
A committee was appointed to run CTWD, they converse daily via an email group and have been preparing an agenda for the upcoming meeting, where our short and long term aims will be decided. These aims will be published on our website and people will be welcome to comment on them. There will even be a forum where all members will be able to directly question anything we're doing and raise any issues they have. I'd suggest waiting to see the final list of aims before complaining about them, even I don't know what will be decided yet.
You talk some **** Barbaric ? So someone who through no fault of there own with no transport or way of getting to the stadium should not be allowed to go ?? I dare say there's people out there would jump at the chance of having help from the club to get to the stadium and it would have to be a special bus that could take a wheel chair. If that's Barbaric to you you need your head looking at
I'm not complaining, I'm asking so I can clarify. You've made some conclusive statements on what CTWD are and are not doing, yet I've not seen discussion on this even though I've raised issues that I know affect a lot of people. You said that there's been comprehensive email support for this lady, but the only emails you mention are from her fellow committee members. As you've said yourself you see little wrong in the stand move, I'm sure you can see how the lack of action looks from this side and why, even if it's not true, it could be viewed that some on the committee are following their own agenda rather than one that affects a significant number of fans. The way this is being done will dilute CTWD as people will drift away, as they already are.
Dutch, I've already said he seat move is on the meeting agenda, what else do you want? The reality is, that it was decided before it was announced and they'd already started on the stadium works to accommodate it, so it was never going to be reversed. Unless it turns into a disaster and they're forced to change it back, which seems unlikely. I suspect all we can really do is complain about the way it's been handled, but that's a decision for the committee.
I think that bit in bold says a lot. The excellent work by CTWD is in danger of being undone by the current position. You ask what can be done, then tell me nothing can be done, but that the committee will decide. Where's the fans in any of that thinking? I know you won't agree because you don't see it as a problem, but I think the first thing you need to do is at least acknowledge it was a mistake for the group not to do something much earlier about the stand moves, when even if there wasn't time to stop it, there were opportunities to minimise the negative impact. These points were raised at the time and dismissed or ignored. Having a meeting to see how best to bolt the stable door seems rather futile. It also leaves a LOT of fans feeling that CTWD doesn't give a toss about them as asking questions seems to be making a nuisance and disrupting where the committee want it to go.
I renewed yesterday. The lad in the ticket office told me sales were going really well, he could have just been saying that I suppose.
