The Official Suarez "our ****" Thread (closing this thread at noon so get commenting)

I am not. But if he could give anyone an indication that he realises that what he did was unacceptable at least the punishment could have been less. He still seems to maintain that what he did was not abnormal, part and parcel of football. If he said he was sorry, it was a moment of madness thing, he could perhaps get the punishment reduced. Isn't this what anyone sensible would do?

 

Few comments on here saying he onc hasn't learnt by previous errors so can him for longer etc. well that didn't work last time so why would it this time?

Yes he should he banned, I'd rather it was international and not domestic but the guy needs help. FIFA should have made him see someone and get pro help to sort himself out.

It's like prison, shove them in, make them feel like they have no future and they'll commit crime again however if you use that time to rehabilitate them you're more likely to stop tyem doing it than just offering a longer ban.

 

Why's he going to do that when yet again he's being supported by his peers and in this case, his country?

Even the Uruguay president got in on the "he's done nothing wrong" act.

His post match comments summed up his thoughts on the issue;

"These situations happen on the field. I had contact with his shoulder, nothing more, things like that happen all the time."

How's he going to 'change' when everyone around him is maintaining his supposed innocence and he doesn't accept any wrong doing?

He's learnt nothing from his previous misdemeanours, as he's seemingly bigger than both LFC and the Uruguay national side.

 

Was the ref black?

#racism

 

Good point. FIFA should actually have included therapy during his absence as part of their punishment/ban. It should be obvious to anyone watching the footage that in those 5 -10 seconds he jumped on Chiellini he wasn't himself. It was like a wild animal jumping on another. When the episode passed, after falling to the ground, it is as if he was his normal self again. It is like someone who has fit and cannot remember what happened in the last 10-15 seconds when hthey come round. I am no psychiatrist but may be someone need to look into this?

 

See, if they had done this I wouldn't have been as concerned about the four month ban because I truly believe it would have given Liverpool grounds for argument. Is it a coincidence that Suarez was well behaved all last season but then goes nuts whilst away with Uruguay? I think Liverpool were helping him.

 

Yes a sensible person would say that, doesn't matter though, you can't say that on your third time biting someone

 

I think after the third time he has no corner to hide in, we all know that I'm sure, an apology is just hot air at this point

the question is what the **** goes through his head when he is thinking I am gonna bite him. That's what leads me to believe he has a compulsion issue. I don't mean his acting up is borne out is a compulsion, I think the action of biting is. It's not normal, and knowing you should not do it and doing it is absolutely compulsive behaviour, unless he is actually doing it for some reason unknown to us all, as in a motive, which I highly doubt

 

That's a total myth imo.

After the Ivanovic incident at the end of the previous season, at the start of last season LFC were doing well and when he came back from his ban,Suarez was banging in the goals, he was under no pressure whatsoever so didn't need to resort fully to his 'normal' diving, cheating biting self. You were winning matches and in the title race. There were hints that he hadn't changed and was a 'reformed' character for instance the dive to 'win' a pen against Villa springs to mind. The pathetic arm in the air, 'I'm seriously injured' against Norwich but gets up and runs 100 MPH to get the ball. you were struggling in that game so he thought' 'I need to do something'.

This 'I need to do something to win' is central to him as a player. In the Derby the other season when Mirallas was terrorising their defence Suarez thought, 'he needs stopping and no one is doing anything about it'. Suarez came back for the only time in the game and 'crooked' Mirallas with a snidey 'foot left in to rake the ankle'. Mirallas was taken off at half time and we were less of a threat. The same with the achilles rake on Distin, who was giving Suarez a tough time and Suarez was ineffective. It is premeditated.

Last season everything was going well for LFC and Suarez. You were champions elect, had beat City and Chelsea were out of the title race. He didn't need to do 'something to win' as you were winning.

When things are going his way then there is no trigger that sets off the, 'I'll do something to win', he doesn't resort to trying to injure players, kicking them in the stomach, flying two footed lunge or raking achilles etc.. The media tried to convince the world that this showed Suarez was a 'reformed character'. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Suarez is at the World cup, get beat in the first game without him but beats England so can progress if they beat Italy. But the Italians are sitting back and even though they get a player sent off are still not really troubled by Uruguay. The pressure is immense. Suarez isn't having much influence on the game and isn't playing particularly well and it looks like they are going out.

The pressure cooker inside him is at bursting point. He feels that he's going to lose, and he explodes. The pressure is to great to handle, inside his head he's thinking, I need to do something' and he resorts to the one thing that will not get him sent off, biting. He knows this will unsettle the Italians and particular, he was hoping Chiellini would react and get sent off or lose concentration. Which is premeditated. Uruguay score from a corner and go through, job done. The end justifies the means.

Circumstances made him react in the way he did, not the colour of the shirt on his back.

 

Yet he made it through games v City Chelsea Arsenal and other tough games, especially towards the end of the season and bit no one in games we lost in a league title race, lots of pressure.

Your long winded argument doesn't hold water

For someone who doesn't support Liverpool or Suarez in any way you sure think you know a lot about the psyche of the man and how Liverpool should have operated in the transfer market regarding his transfer to Liverpool

 

130 pages of ****.

 

And this being why people dislike the guy so much. There is 'will to win' and then there is 'win at all cost'....

 

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Not so sure. There will of course be times when he can control himself more than others and when opportunities to perform his 'traits' don't arise in a given game but there is a clear link between the biting, diving etc to games in which Suarez and/or his side are struggling.

 

see this is all true right..... except any of this is normal behavior in football especially today as i'm sure if i bothered i'd find 5/6 players who did the same through evertons season...... so its best to say he's an absolute c and leave it at that.

 

What Tobes is conveniently leaving out is the time between bites.

That's a factor in his clean season. How long between bites in Ajax and Liverpool and this last one. It seems as soon as he has looked to have cleaned up his act he then does it again as if he thinks he has some bite credit or something

When things die down he is more prone to doing it again

 

The Uruguay appeal should be a good laugh at least.

 

Again, shocked you don't agree

There were plenty of situations where he could have snapped, especially when he wasn't getting protection from the referee despite being blatantly kicked all over the park! He was still arguing with officials but not as much and he cut the diving down a lot too. He was generally much better behaved.

We won, drew and drew just before Suarez bit Ivanovic so wasn't exactly in bad form. If it was because we were losing to Chelsea, why didn't he do it this year when we were losing to them? Especially when a loss had a much bigger impact on the season?

 

I never passed comment on what Liverpool should have done in regards to buying him.

I merely said you knew what you were buying

Get it right ffs