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  1. Tel (they/them)

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    Prop is supposed to give some people a bit of insomnia, I've not had much trouble sleeping on it. Used to get a lot of night terrors where you jump out your skin just as you're nodding off, that was a pain in the arse. I've built up a massive intolerance to alcohol mind, I get pissed pretty much for free nowadays it doesn't take much but I don't drink often anyhow.
     
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  2. Tel (they/them)

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    Not at all mate, I'm active anyhow but I don't think they've even accounted for a pound of weight gain. I've also got hypothyroidism which has a weight-gain side effect so that's why I work out quite often so that it doesn't get the better of me. When I'm too decrepit to work out later in life I'll go on meds for that as well. I started on 160mg of Prop per day and that was a bit like walking around like a zombie for a couple of months but when they lower the dose (I'm on half of that now) it's so much better, I just feel pretty much normal again now.

    I'd get addicted to industrial strength painkillers mate if I didn't have so much self discipline, they're quality gear. My boss has a drawer full of them cos he had a spinal injury a while back, there's morphine in there and the lot. I've had a few goes on some of the stuff, entire weekends just lost to the bed, don't half feel good on a monday!
     
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  3. Brian Storm

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    Edit, She's just informed me she's tried Beta Blockers for a different condition in the past and had bad side effects so had to come off them.
     
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  4. Billy Death

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    Well I'm on 3 40mg a day & still skinny as **** so I doubt it has that effect marra.
     
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  5. Billy Death

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    I've had chronic insomnia for years mate.
    I've seen me go three days without sleep.
    If it wasn't for the alcohol I wouldn't get any.
    When I came out of hospital my GP took me straight off the zopiclone as it's addictive & he went mental with what the MOD doctors gave me.
     
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  6. Tel (they/them)

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    A close family friend was on Acebutolol B-blockers, and she hated them and I gave her one of my Propranalol and they worked a treat for her and she's on them now. There's about 20 different types mate, I wouldn't give up on them as an option off the back of trying just one or two of the brands for that reason. By default they stop anxiety, as the heart cannot race and thus the brain cannot panic and enter fight or flight mode, but obviously there'll be side effects for some that will outweigh the pro's of it.

    Hope you find a way around it for your mrs mate, I wouldn't wish what I was suffering from on anybody, feeling trapped in your own body is one of the worst feelings.
     
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  7. Brian Storm

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    Cheers fella, well she's finally been referred to the relevant department in the Darlo Trust, She was getting treatment by the Newcastle trust and they were bang on but the train journeys every week were killing her, the Anxiety actually triggered a very painful chest condition so she had to stop going, then our own trust has just spent the last 4 months pissing her about, but we've got her referred to the right place now, so I'm sure she'll find the right meds. Cheers for the kind words.
     
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  8. Tel (they/them)

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    You've probably got a case for suing the MOD mate for medical negligence. I have a case to sue them for two fillings that they done for me, the tooth was perfectly healthy apart from a tiny shadow, 1/10th the size of my tooth, at the top that they needed to repair, but they drilled my entire tooth out and basically left a shell, and my private dentist told me the MOD dentists do this so that there's no re-occurrence of it in a combat situation. My private dentist is recommending I sue them for the entire amount of getting a full grill of porcelain veneers, you're talking probably 30 grand, every ten years, for just two teeth.

    I couldn't sleep a wink when I was anxious mind, know exactly how you feel. Up for days and eventually passing out through exhaustion, the more tired your brain gets the more you panic as well, it's a vicious circle. I sleep like a retired sheep dog now mind, although my body gets a daily battering on most days which probably helps.
     
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  9. Tel (they/them)

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    Was that an actual condition or was it just a symptom of anxiety? I had massive pains in my sternum, breastbone and ribs. Feels like a heart attack waiting to happen constantly, but it was all a result of the tension from your intercostal muscles that sit between each rib. Horrible symptoms mate, the closing throat was my worst, still get that from time to time as a nice reminder. She'll get there buddy, trust that there's an expert out there that will get her back on her feet again, sometimes it seems it'll never happen but it only takes one clever sod to fix it.
     
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    When I left the army I took a big pay off so I wont even get a pension let alone sue the bastards.
    I blame them for a lot but it was my fault for doing what I did.
     
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    Sound like you've had what she had.

    http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/tietzes-syndrome/Pages/Introduction.aspx
     
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  12. Tel (they/them)

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    You seem a good bloke as well Billy, you do appear to beat yourself up a lot from what I read on here, but maybe I'm misunderstanding you. Funny ****er, I'd buy you a pint and listen to your tale any time you find yourself in my neck of the woods, that goes for a lot of lads on here.
     
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    That's brought back a few memories mate! I read that a few times, it's that little flappy bone cartilage thingy that sits right in the middle of your rib cage at the bottom, hurt like **** to touch. When I was relaxed and my intercostals weren't constantly tensed, the pain eased and went away altogether eventually. Between that pain and the jolts of pain down my left arm I was a quivering mess, but like her I had a supportive partner who got me through the darkest parts. You're doing a good job mate, maybe you feel under appreciated at times as my Mrs did but she's been given more credit than any meds from me since I got sorted. Never would have got through that without her.
     
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    Yep, you've had the same thing, mental. Small world. She's my world fella. I'll stick by her through thick and thin. Good to hear you've got support too, lord knows the NHS fail in regards to support. But she supports me with my problems too, I couldn't be without her, Sometimes our condition's clash but most of the time we can provide each other with the support we need. We're very lucky to have someone. Me, you and Billy. So many aren't so lucky and have to face these things alone.
     
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  15. Tel (they/them)

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    Amen to that brother!

    PM me if you ever need to ask anything mate, seriously, every symptom she's got I've probably had at one point and trust me they all go away when you regain control. I bet your condition would get a thousand times better as well when you know she's happy and not suffering in her mind, keep your focus and goals on her and you'll get there buddy.

    I'm out of here for today, pleasure chatting lads.
     
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    I have a cousin who lives in Manchester mate, next time I'm over that way I'll look you up & the beers will be on me. <ok>
     
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    Cheers fella same here, PM anytime. Unfortunately anxiety is just a by product of her condition. The anxiety should be eliminated once her condition is treated properly.

    Later fella! <ok>
     
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    MOD put me on 'zombie-clone' too marra.... I lasted a week with them.
    I remember lying in bed thinking... These are supposed to help me sleep.
    I was chewing my bottom lip at the time.. Feeling like a mad man!!
    Only thing that helps me sleep is Amitriptyline.. But I can't really take them whilst away with work.
    I'm known as 'the amazing staying awake man' at work!!
    It's not funny tho... I'd love to be able to sleep!!
     
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  19. Billy Death

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    It's ****ing ****e isn't it?
     
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    It's a nightmare marra...
    I drove down to Portsmouth yesterday morning (6.5 hrs) for a meeting, I set off back just after 18:15 arriving back in Darlo @ 00:10.
    I've dropped the bairns off this morning and then had to be at The Freeman Hospital at 11:15... You'd expect to be shattered today.. But... No!!! Sat here wide awake wondering what film to watch on Netflix.
    I find it a lot easier to stay up watching TV than lying in bed getting frustrated with thoughts running wild.
    Anyway... Back to Netflix.... <steam><steam><steam>
     
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