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The red wine thread...

Discussion in 'Watford' started by Mexican Hornet, Jun 20, 2014.

  1. Mexican Hornet

    Mexican Hornet Well-Known Member

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    I have recently got into the red as I have been on some tours to the vineyards here. Yes, they produce red wine in Mexico. However, most agricultural space for alcohol is for Tequila or Mescal!

    Recommendations welcome, don't bottle it up please...
     
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  2. Hornette_TID

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    i'm a rioja girl...that's about as much as i know about red wine lol. M Frenchie surely knows more ;)
     
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  3. Hornet-Fez

    Hornet-Fez Well-Known Member

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    The red wine thread..... I am an aficionado, not an expert but I do like my reds. However, tonight's a stout and Pernod night so more sense from me another time. Like Hornette, Rioja is indeed the first choice... but by no means the only one.
     
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  4. Mexican Hornet

    Mexican Hornet Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, likewise, Rioja is my favourite too. Nevertheless, I need more gems that this thread will unearth :)
     
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  5. canary-dave

    canary-dave Well-Known Member

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    Can I just say, the only red wine I like is by UB40!

    Sorry Mex. there is no chance of me drinking any wine at all unless it's sweet and sparkling!
     
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  6. wear_yellow

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    Try a Zinfandel if you like heavy bodied Reds. Grown extensively in California, so should be readily availed in Mex. great to have with a big juicy T Bone or strong cheese. As now days, especially in the US, people select wines by the grape variety, for me the king of grape varieties for red wine is the Pinot Noir, so try one from Oregon. Willamette Valley produces excellent wine in a good year, but can be a little pricey.
    Enjoy your drinking.
     
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  7. Mexican Hornet

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    <magic> I might just well do that!

    <cheers>
     
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  8. NZHorn

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    Central Otago Pinot Noirs are very good, too. Even the French who produce Burgundies agree.
     
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  9. scullyonthewing

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    Gaillac reds - very good wine at great value.

    Gaillac perle if a fresh white wine is required for fish /seafood - served very cold. yum yum!
     
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  10. wear_yellow

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    For a light red that can be served slightly chilled and is great drinking wine, try a Beaujolais. Probably the easiest to find would be a Fleurie, but even a Beaujolais-Villages AOC is very drinkable.Not sure that European wines are easily to get in Mexico, but they are the ones I am more familiar with
     
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  11. oldfrenchhorn

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    The French are very protective of their wines and there was outrage when it was suggested by the government that it would increase the tax by €0.05 a bottle. This silly idea was dropped of course as the protest was loud enough and with roads being blocked the public as usual won the argument.

    Clearly there are many good wines from around the world, but you will struggle to find many in the giant supermarkets other than French ones. Our local LeClerc has one small shelf containing a couple of German and Spanish bottles, but they never seem to move.

    I enjoy red wine that is produced and bottled at a Chateaux in the Bordeaux region, rather than one that has been taken to a large cooperative and mixed up with different varieties of grape. The trouble is that there is a limited supply and it only lasts so long. There is no certainty that it will be as good from the following years crop.

    A little while ago I was looking at the shelf with Rosé on it and was looking for one that is produced in Nimes. Some of the ones from the deep south can be very dry, but this one although not sweet is more to Mme's liking. A lady came up and wanted me to describe the difference between the different bottles. I could tell her the very dry, dry, light or fruity ones and eventually pointed her in the direction of a light pale looking one from Corsica that is lovely chilled on a warm day. Hope she enjoyed it.
     
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  12. NZHorn

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    Rose has a very bad image in NZ. It is seen as a drink for women at a BBQ in the summer. No one here has much idea about French wines other than Champaigne.
     
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  13. Bolton's Boots

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    Possibly because they have some of the best wines going & don't need to know about French ones...
     
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  14. NZHorn

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    Maybe. Certainly the whites and Pinot noir but I'm not so sure about other red varieties. Having said that a wine growing friend of mine is convinced that the Nelson region would be good for Tempranillo - what Rioja is made from.
     
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    Hawkes Bay Syrah springs to mind - makes my mouth water as it does so....
     
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  16. hornethologist a.k.a. theo

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    Both Chile and Argentina produce some excellent reds, especially Merlot.
     
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  17. Golden Gordon

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    We only really know French wines from years of boating holidays on their rivers and canals. Saumur and Saumur Champigny from the Loire, also Chinon which you can serve chilled with eg fish.
    Southern French wines from Rousillon.
    From Burgundy: Irancey, not as big and meaty as a lot of the classic Bourgogne reds.

    I do remember a fantastic Italian red at a restaurant in the back streets of Florence, priceless and nameless. The family who run the restaurant made the wine from their own farm up in the hills somewhere. They also made their own olive oil ( but I can't drink more than a half bottle Of that.)

    Mrs GG loves fizzy French rose during the day while we're cruising, she'll easily get through the bottle by tea time, ( I don't touch the stuff) and is in heaven if she can get some cherries to eat with it.

    For me nowadays a glass at the most is enough. I am not forbidden to drink with my MS but I actually don't feel like it. How weird is that? Might have a glass tomorrow for my significant birthday lunch with the family.

    Cheers!
     
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  18. Jsybarry

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    Unfortunately, I don't drink but one of my colleagues prefers Merlot, so after speaking to her fiancé, I got her a bottle for her 40th - can't remember where it was from though. I got it from the shop of a wine merchant on the island. If you have such a thing nearby, it's definitely worth going to them. Obviously, the cost is greater. However, you can almost have too much choice when you go to one of those and the advice may get a bit confusing if you haven't done any research beforehand.
     
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  19. colognehornet

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    Although Germany is more known for exporting white wines some of their reds are highly palatable although generally not so full bodied as those from Southern Europe. We live not so far away from the Ahrtal which is one of the northernmost terraces for red wine in Europe. The best are Spätburgunder, Dornfelder and the (German despite its name) Blauer Portugieser. Not sure if any of these would be obtainable in Mexico though.
     
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    Usually Barolo for me. On the rare occasions that i spend a bit more on a bottle I'd plump for a Gevrey Chambertin.
     
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