We have a good group of potential coming through, and although I don't believe Roy has done much wrong, he does not have the capability to build a TEAM of champions. I am of the belief that if Sir Alex was lured out of retirement and took over until after the next world cup he could lay some solid foundations for a team of winners... something I believe has been our downfall for the last 10-15years. We always seem to have the individuals but no team of champions. Just wanted to get others' thoughts.
Until we have a decent FA who can allow players to be picked from all clubs rather than the elite few then it doesn't matter who's in charge. Young English players need to be playing at least 80% of their clubs games not bench warming collecting easy money. Look at Southampton, all of their players are being cherry picked by clubs where I doubt very much they will get anything like the same amount if games, it really does my head in!
I agree to an extent with what your saying but this world cup, for example, players like suarez, rvp and the italy boss have come out and said that players like gerrard, rooney, sturridge are the "best they've played with" or "among the best in the world". Whilst I woudn't go that far we certainly have individuals who have shone in the EPL and on the European stage but just don't seem to perform as a team which they do at their clubs. I beleive this is a special talent that only a few managers possess. I mean Moyes I still think is a great manager but he lacked what Ferguson had which was the ability to get those star studded individuals playing as a team... Fellaini/RVP/Mata are evidence of that. Each game England fell behind I lacked belief we had the team spirit to get back into it and that comes from the management instilling the team ethic and belief, something Nige did here.
We have a decent bunch coming through if managed correctly Lets admit it Hodgson failed big time with naive tactics. We need a new manager who has a set and doesnt pick players based on reputations or past glories
Seems to me that the game is driven by European Cup football and to a lesser extent, league football. How many players have been withdrawn from our international squad by their club manager, and how much pressure do those same managers apply for selected international game time. If we want the best international team in the world, then focus has to change. I have a lot of respect for RH - has proved himself at club and international level. Has given a number of the younger lads a chance at this world cup. May go against the grain with some, but I am happy with the club focus. Have never been to an international match, and never will. I dont think any manager in the world would have managed to progress us in this tournament with the quality of defenders we have.
the fa need to make changes, they go on about grass roots football and training coaches, but its like i heard Lennon say that he didn't receive much coaching whilst playing in the streets where he lived. i remember as a kid being able to turn up early to school and have a kick about in the playground before lessons started now the kid aren't allow on the premises before school starts. kids need to learn one ting above all about football and that is its meant to be fun. it doesn't matter ow good or bad at the game you are its about enjoying the game. the other problem we have stems from the school system its the eldest kids in the school year that get picked from an early age as at junior school they are the biggest strongest and most co-ordinated they can be up to twenty percent older than there class mates. how many promising youth players have we had who are big strapping lads competing well against there piers but cannot compete against players of a simular stature. we have other problem the fact that managers always seem to be ex players the best tacticians and man managers and motivators may not be great at kicking a ball, look at motor sport Lewis Hamilton is a great driver but he is expected to change his own oil. the only change the fa could make to improve our international chances is to bring in a manager with proven international experience and with a passion for the game and to tom it all an English man that man is Mike Basset he is the only real choice.
Moving on to the players... Jamie Vardy future England player?? Who wouldn't be n his side with his work rate and pace, a player like him would cause all sorts of defences (even international) problems. 2 seasons under Pearsons guidance then Euro's
To be honest, if we do a Southampton level of achievement with Vardy providing a fair share of the goals, i don't see why he can't be behind Sturridge, Rooney and Welbeck in the pecking order, because lets face it, they play for Liverpool and Man Utd, so they will never be dropped. Ah, Lambert plays for Liverpool now too, so the highest Vardys going to be is 5th in the England strikers table.
Genuinely don't know where to start on this topic... Take a look at Man City, the team who won the league last year. How many English players do they have? More importantly, how many English players do they frequently use? They have contributed Hart to this England squad, and that is it... There are too many foreign owners, and foreign managers, who couldn't care less about the future of English football. That's the problem. We don't have enough English players playing week in/week out in the top league. We get some good young talent come through. Then they are snapped up by the top clubs, and then don't get played. Jack Rodwell was supposed to be the next best thing, moved to Man City, and now doesn't get a game. Sitting in the reserves is doing him no good. Same with Scott Sinclair. Had a cracking season in the Championship for Swansea, and then a pretty good one in the Premiership too. It's been happening for a while, too. Chelsea are guilty of the same, looking back further, with Scott Parker and Wright-Phillips. Both were quality, made the big money move, fel by the wayside. I mean, look at Daniel Sturridge. I can't remember correctly, was he even near the England squad when he was playing for Chelsea? Constantly played out of position, and in and out of the team. Makes the move to Liverpool, and look at him. He's one of our best players, one of the first names on the teamsheet. Look what the right manager, and being picked consistently can do for a player. We'll never go anywhere while it stays like this. If you always do what you've always done, you'll always get what you've already got.
Lads, a genuine question.. Am i correct in thinking that Pearson had something to do with the England seet up previously? I seem to remeber reading something along those lines ? I could be completely wrong though. I thought he was a youth coach or something ?
GL to the lads, time to give the young ones a taste of the world cup. All players deserve to get game time for going out there in that heat! Surprised that Sterling has been dropped. I wonder how many of the younger players actually keep their form up until the Euros ...
Some good points on this thread ... we do need a manager that is brave enough to 'forge a team' ... and Roy is not that man for me ... Rooney and Gerrard were 'shoe-ins' for any game with 'meaning' irrespective of form ... contrast that with the actions of Didier Deschamps who left Nasri out of his squad because of the player's 'attitude' and the potential that had for squad dishamony ... France have learned a valuable lesson it seems - no chance of the same type of embarrassiment they had in 2010 .. and they have been impressive so far and have fledged some exciting young talent. I have been very impressed by some outstanding youngsters at this tournament ... e.g James Rodriguez for Columbia ... could you imagine us giving the pivotal 'star man' role, to a 22 year old? - we need to be brave going forward.
Couldn't agree more. A few nations have left out famous veterans ie Donovan for the USA and it's not harmed them at all. We can knock the defense as much as we like (and rightly so) but we've also only scored two. We have problems all over the pitch. I've always supported Hodgson as I do rate him, certainly among the English crop but if he's going to pick a by-the-numbers team rather than applying expert knowledge of the English leagues, then we may as have a foreigner in charge. At least tactically they'd be more in touch.
Shaqiri ran the show for the Swiss last night and bagged a hat-trick from midfield ... his age? ... you guessed it ...22!
Every England player at 22 we just say is "for the future". Quite pathetic really Adam Lallana is 26 and we still consider him young. He is older then Lionel Messi
